:54:01
They declared that terrorism
was equivalent to nationalism,
:54:05
and said if they put an end
to nationalism
:54:08
they'd put an end to terrorism.
:54:10
The Basque problem has become
a means, first of all,
:54:15
of demonstrating firmness
:54:17
and winning votes
throughout all of Spain.
:54:21
A few years ago, the moment came
when you had to make a choice.
:54:25
You were with the victims
or with the executioners,
:54:28
with democracy or with those
who were attacking democracy.
:54:32
What's more, with the Basque
problem, it's a matter of:
:54:35
"If you're not with me,
you're against me".
:54:38
Bush's new philosophy.
:54:40
No divergence is acceptable.
:54:42
That has been widely accepted
by the press in Madrid.
:54:47
And I mean Madrid.
:54:49
There is practically unanimity among
columnists on the Basque question,
:54:54
whether it's "ABC", "La Razón",
"El Mundo" or "El País".
:54:58
The view of the Basque Country
comes from a single source,
:55:01
from a constitutionalist source,
if you want to call it that.
:55:06
If ETA, which contaminates
everything, didn't exist,
:55:10
neither the PP nor the PSOE
would be suffering this situation,
:55:15
and, naturally,
the satanisation
:55:20
or criminalisation
of democratic nationalism
:55:23
wouldn't exist either.
:55:25
Every paranoia
needs to invent an enemy
:55:29
against which to discharge
its rage as it were.
:55:32
I'm that enemy.
:55:37
As to whether
:55:39
there is a rising neo-nationalism
or neo-Francoism in Spain,
:55:43
I think it has always existed
:55:46
and what we have here
is a continuity.
:55:49
Closing your eyes
:55:50
to the short and medium term
negative effects
:55:53
of the PP's nationalist
Spanish ideology
:55:56
is not going to help democracy.
:55:59
If you accept that Spain
is not a nation