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the PNV is the political group
with most social support in Euskadi.
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Professor of Media Studies
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Nevertheless, the so-called
democratic nationalism
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has not revised the figure
of Sabino Arana,
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a precedent of the darkest chapters
of the 20th century.
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The nationalism at the turn
of the century
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was unlike the nationalism
during the Civil War,
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or the post-Franco period
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or the early days of democracy,
or the nationalism today.
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There is violence
in the original nationalism.
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There isn't a chapter, a word,
a phrase by Sabino Arana,
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that refers to tenderness
or solidarity.
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It's all horrific.
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I think there is a basic crisis,
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a need, if you want, to rework
the nationalist discourse,
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because nationalism has experienced
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the syndrome of "a lack of state"
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of the state that couldn't be
in the 19th century.
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Therefore, Basque nationalism
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is a sense of cohesion,
of belonging to a small country,
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which has been forbidden to them,
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and which they believe is
part of their identity
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and is fighting to get out.
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When the right of belonging
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is not based simply
on the possession of citizenship,
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but has some added component,
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which could be ethnic
or cultural or of any kind,
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then it becomes dangerous
because it starts to exclude others.
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The nation is not
the most important thing.
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What really matters
are people, individuals.
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I think that Basque nationalism,
like almost all others,
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is the expression of fear,
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almost always
the fear of disappearing.
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I want the Basque people
to be preserved,
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I don't want them to be diluted
into history.