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In my conversation with Aznar
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I put all that into context for him,
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and we got to the 20th century.
What happened there?
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A civil war, a military coup,
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Basque Catholics forming
the Basque Government of the time,
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with the Statue of 1936, etc.
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We were accused of being pro-Vatican
but we supported the Republic,
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even though
we didn't approve of it,
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simply out of loyalty
to democracy and liberties.
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Then there was Francoism,
the dictatorship,
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and finally an attempt
to find a solution.
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I said to Aznar, "Look,
whether you like it or not,
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the Basque question isn't over.
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You can't ask me
to love the Constitution
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when I haven't voted for it.
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I can be respectful,
and I will be,
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but it isn't my Constitution".
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Article 2 says that
the Constitution is based
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on the indissoluble unity
of the Spanish nation.
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In my opinion, that's complete
and total hyper-nationalism,
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the worst nationalism.
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And it's accepted,
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like the change
from francoism to democracy
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without anyone having to change
their ideas, by decree.
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The impression I had
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was that the PNV
collaborated loyally
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in drawing up a new Constitution
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but wanted to remain
on the sidelines.
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You didn't want the PNV,
with its eight deputies,
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to be a group and thus form part
of the constitutional committee.
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So you excluded us from
the constitutional debate.