1:24:00
and then released without charges.
That is a form of violence.
1:24:04
No one talks about that.
1:24:06
People see all those arrests
as a success for the police,
1:24:09
because they haven't been told
that those 18 or 20 people
1:24:13
were tortured, held in isolation
and made statements to a judge,
1:24:18
but in the end no charges
were brought against them.
1:24:22
The police would go looking for
someone in particular,
1:24:25
and if they didn't find him,
1:24:28
they were capable of arresting
whole families.
1:24:31
The complaints
being made at present
1:24:35
are more slogans than reality.
1:24:37
It's hard to know
if they are false complaints
1:24:40
or if they can be proven.
Some of them certainly seem real.
1:24:44
At another moment, they said
they would put electrodes on me.
1:24:48
I was naked,
they threw water on my back.
1:24:51
They said: "Do you want
to have more children?"
1:24:53
Now it's more common
that the complaints are true.
1:24:57
Some tortures leave no marks
and are very difficult to prove.
1:25:01
The plastic bag
was sticking to my mouth
1:25:04
and I couldn't breathe.
1:25:06
You're suffocating,
your face is soaking wet,
1:25:10
you think you're going to die,
and then they take the bag off.
1:25:15
We accept that
some complaints are true
1:25:17
when a sentence confirms it.
1:25:19
They told me what I had to say
in front of the judge.
1:25:23
I had to say
I'd been well treated.
1:25:25
We went over it
time and again.
1:25:27
"We'll put you in a van,
1:25:30
we'll drive you around
and bring you back.
1:25:32
You won't know
if it's a real judge
1:25:35
and if you don't repeat
what we've told you to say
1:25:40
you're finished.
1:25:42
When you're held incommunicado
for 5 days
1:25:44
the police are given
total freedom to act
1:25:47
and to obtain
incriminating statements
1:25:50
which will be the main evidence
for obtaining a sentence.
1:25:54
The use of a video camera
in interrogations
1:25:56
during the incommunicado period
1:25:59
is recommended not only
by Amnesty International