La Pelota vasca. La piel contra la piedra
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but also by organizations
made up by governments.

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I know what I went through,
I know what they did to me,

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I know that everything I've said
is true.

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Something has to be done.
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It has to be said out loud
that people are being tortured here.

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The Spanish Government, supported
by PSOE and public opinion,

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banned Batasuna
(10% of the Basque vote)

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for not condemning
the killings by ETA

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The Basque Government
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and leading members of
the Basque Socialist Party

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opposed the measure,
as did the majority of Basques.

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If Margaret Thatcher,
the Iron Lady,

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had banned Sinn Fein,
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would there have been
peace in Ireland?

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I think the banning of Batasuna
is a mistake.

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It will create more problems
than it will solve.

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This is terrorism
with social support.

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It's almost the leading party
in Guipuzcoa.

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So what will actually happen is
it will make whole towns illegal.

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If you think
that banning a problem

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will make it go away,
you are mistaken.

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The last thing to do
with that world

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is give it arguments
for going further into itself.

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In a democracy, you can't have
political formations

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which shelter behind
the democratic system they mock,

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and use it to gain political
coverage and funding,

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to win public understanding
and to support terrorism.

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I think the solution lies,
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as Ernest Lluch, Jaúregui
and many others said,

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on the side of dismantling
their arguments,

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of convincing all those people

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