:14:00
	He can still be useful.
:14:01
	I'm afraid not.
His mind is in total collapse.
:14:04
	He's in a state of catatonic shock
and in a home for the criminally insane.
:14:08
	Why do you say "alleged murderer"?
:14:10
	That's just my personal view.
:14:13
	A short while ago at the asylum,
I succeeded in rousing Hobart.
:14:16
	Under hypnosis,
he produced this drawing.
:14:19
	It's crude, but remarkably similar
to these copies...
:14:22
	of old woodcuts
and medieval drawings...
:14:24
	of a fiire demon invoked
by witchcraft to destroy an enemy.
:14:28
	You mean you think that thing
committed the murder?
:14:32
	I thought the purpose of our convention
was to disprove that type of thinking.
:14:36
	- Yes, but Mark says...
- I'll speak for myself, Llyod.
:14:40
	I'm a scientist also, Dr. Holden.
:14:43
	I know the value
of the cold light of reason.
:14:46
	But I also know the deep shadows
that light can cast.
:14:50
	The shadows that can
blind men to truth.
:14:52
	What truth? Myths.
:14:54
	Demonology and witchcraft
have been discredited...
:14:56
	since the Middle Ages.
:14:58
	I wrote a book about it.
That's why I'm here.
:15:00
	Then explain how
an uneducated farmer like Hobart...
:15:03
	could know anything
about this creature...
:15:05
	whose legend has persisted through
civilization after civilization.
:15:09
	Babylonian, Baal, Egyptian...
:15:11
	Sethtyphon, Persian, Asmodeus...
:15:14
	Hebraich, Moloch...
:15:18
	Come in.
:15:18
	Come in.
:15:24
	Good evening. KT Kumar, Bombay,
apologizes for being late.
:15:28
	That's quite all right, Kumar.
We're just about to begin.
:15:31
	- This is Dr. Holden.
- How do you do?
:15:34
	Dr. Holden.
I'm very pleased to meet you.
:15:36
	Your work on hypnotism
is a great favorite of mine.
:15:39
	Thank you. Now, we were just talking
about devils and demons.
:15:44
	What are your views on the subject?
:15:46
	I believe in them.
Absolutely.
:15:51
	Well, now that we're all here,
let's get down to business.
:15:57
	Excuse me.
:15:59
	- Hello?
- Holden?