:19:03
Superficially it's like
one of those...
:19:05
...old fashioned postcards where
you get a lot of views...
:19:08
...inside the other one.
-Oh, yeah.
:19:10
You lift the flap and
the others just fall out.
:19:12
But that doesn't look like anything.
:19:14
Oh, l see!
:19:18
That's all the same thing, right?
-l got interested in the idea that...
:19:24
...in a postcard of that sort...
-Yeah.
:19:26
...of that scale, it's very difficult
to identify any of the elements...
:19:32
Yeah.
-...in the picture.
:19:35
lt's almost a question of relating
these marks to each other.
:19:39
You can't tell what anything is.
:19:40
Yeah.
-So somehow the...
:19:43
...relationship of each mark
to another, tells me that it's people.
:19:46
So you blew it up to see...
-l made one or two paintings...
:19:50
...on this theme, taking...
:19:52
...large groups of people
and then finding out...
:19:54
...what kind of information there
is in there, when you go into it in...
:19:58
...suddenly see...
-Say, you know what?
:20:00
This is like the movie.
Like 'Blow up'.
:20:02
Like the huge pick,
the way the guy blew it up...
:20:05
So l'm told...
-Yeah.
:20:06
...but l did this about
18 months before.
:20:08
Really?
-l did it...
:20:09
...18 months before.
-That's really groovy.
:20:11
The painting is from this area here.
-Yeah.
:20:13
What interested me about
that particular frame...
:20:16
...was that, at the bottom of the frame.
:20:18
Yeah.
-You can tell...
:20:20
...what the elements are.
You can tell that this is a boy.
:20:22
Although it's just a smudge,
it still remains...
:20:26
A boy.
-...human.
:20:27
l can see that.
-You can even tell the sex.
:20:29
This you can even identify
as a female and...
:20:32
...the relationship of that
figure to that figure...
:20:35
...will let you know that
this is a woman.
:20:37
Yeah.
-This must be the mother...
:20:39
...of this figure. lt's like
a family group.
:20:41
The one is sitting in a deck chair.
-Yeah.
:20:43
That blob is a head.
-Yeah.
:20:45
When you blow it up
and look a bit further...
:20:47
...it looks as it's a dog.
:20:49
You can't tell what it is,
but it's just the relationship...
:20:51
...of these marks to those marks...
:20:53
...that'll tell you what happens.
-Fantastic!
:20:55
l'm very interested in
the Kennedy assassination.
:20:59
l've got my whole room wallpapered,
practically,...