:33:01
About six years, ever since she and
Ted moved into the building.
:33:05
How often did you see
Joanna Kramer and her son?
:33:09
I haven't seen them together now for
about a year and a half, but...
:33:13
...back then I saw them two or
three times a week.
:33:17
My oldest daughter and Billy
play together.
:33:19
Can you describe the relationship
between Joanna Kramer and her son?
:33:24
It was good.
:33:25
Joanna was a very good mother.
:33:27
Both Ted and Joanna are very...
:33:29
Did Mrs. Kramer discuss her
relationship with her ex-husband?
:33:33
Yes.
:33:34
Can you tell the court
exactly what she said?
:33:39
Joanna wasn't happy
for many reasons...
:33:41
Did you ever hear her say Mr. Kramer
was insensitive to his son's needs?
:33:49
Would you answer the question?
:33:53
- I didn't hear you.
- Yes, but that was before...
:33:56
Did you ever encourage
her to leave her husband?
:33:58
No, I did not.
:34:02
Several days before she left,
did you say to her:
:34:06
"If you're in this much pain,
you owe it to yourself to leave"?
:34:12
- I didn't think Joanna...
- Did you say to her:
:34:15
"If you're in this much pain,
you owe it to yourself to leave"?
:34:19
- Yes, but she was my friend...
- No further questions.
:34:23
Mrs. Phelps, you may step down.
:34:26
Joanna, things are not the same now.
:34:29
Ted is not the same man.
:34:30
- You don't know how hard he's tried...
- Mrs. Phelps!
:34:33
They're beautiful together.
:34:35
The witness is asked to step down.
:34:37
If you could see them together...
:34:39
...maybe you wouldn't be here now.
:34:41
Mrs. Phelps, that will be all!
:34:48
I'm sorry.
:34:52
When you were talking...
:34:54
When my ex-wife was talking about how
unhappy she was during our marriage...
:34:59
...most of what she said
was probably true.