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:45:08
Would you like me to repeat
the question, Mr Ferguson?

:45:10
No.
:45:13
Then answer it, please.
And remember, you're under oath.

:45:16
A few boys who we considered
to be discipline problems

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uh, were hit on occasion.
:45:21
And, uh, how were they hit?
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I don't know what you mean.
:45:24
A fist? Open hand?
:45:26
A kick?
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Baton, maybe?
:45:29
It depended on what
the situation called for.

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Who determined that situation?
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The guard on the scene.
:45:35
That's a lot of power
to have over a boy, isn't it?

:45:37
It came with the job, sir.
:45:39
Did torture come with the job?
:45:50
Boys were tortured,
weren't they, Mr Ferguson?

:45:52
Define torture.
:45:55
Well, let's define torture.
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Uh, cigarette burning...
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Random beatings...
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Solitary confinement
with no food and no light.

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Would you say that took place?
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On occasion.
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Who tortured them?
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Guards.
:46:15
Which guards?
:46:18
I don't...I can't remember
all of them.

:46:22
Remember one.
:46:25
Mr Ferguson, remember one.
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Remember one.
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Aah!
:46:37
Let me ask you this,
Mr Ferguson. Was there ever...?

:46:40
Counsel,
this line of questioning

:46:42
better lead somewhere
having to do with this case.

:46:44
It will, Your Honour.
:46:45
For your sake.
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Yes, sir. Uh, Mr Ferguson,
:46:48
was there ever any sexual abuse
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at the Wilkinson Home for Boys?
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Was there ever any sexual abuse
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at the Wilkinson Home for Boys?

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