:23:01
That's very good .
:23:02
American bald eagle.
:23:07
I want you to look at this.
:23:10
See those people?
:23:14
Not the cops, not the news media.
:23:16
I want you to look. Go on.
:23:18
See?
:23:19
The people.
:23:22
-That's public opinion.
-I guess so.
:23:24
That's a powerful force.
You got a problem right now .
:23:27
Those people hate your guts.
:23:32
You' re holding kids hostage
and that's a no-no.
:23:35
At best, they think you' re nuts.
:23:37
But I' m not.
:23:38
I mean, not usually.
Jenny tells me I don't think.
:23:43
Who's Jenny?
:23:44
-My wife.
-And you' re--?
:23:47
"Sam . "
:23:50
I don't think you' re crazy.
:23:52
You' re just an ordinary guy
who's popped his top.
:23:55
But you must connect
with those people out there.
:23:58
They know what it's like to lose their
job, or they know someone who has.
:24:03
They'll understand
if you give them a chance.
:24:07
The one thing you might want to do
before you give yourself up. . .
:24:11
. . .is let those people know
what you' re about.
:24:14
How?
:24:15
If I put a camera on you right now
and I interview you. . .
:24:18
. . .and you tell people what's going on,
I think they'll want to know .
:24:24
Don't you?
:24:25
No.
:24:28
That's your jury pool out there.
:24:32
All right.
:24:35
Exchange the kids for the interview .
:24:37
No.
:24:40
You help them, they help you.
:24:44
One.
:24:45
One, that's it.
:24:46
One's good .
:24:51
No, I can't do that. I can't put
a hostage-taker on television.
:24:55
I understand.
:24:56
He's insisting
that I put him on right now .