:23:01
- That's very good.
- American bald eagle.
:23:07
I want you to look at this.
:23:10
See those people?
:23:14
Not the cops, not the news media.
:23:16
I want you to look. Go on.
See? The people.
:23:22
- Public opinion.
- I guess.
:23:24
It's a powerful force.
You got a problem right now.
:23:27
Those people hate your guts.
:23:32
Holding kids hostage is a no-no.
At best, they think you're nuts.
:23:37
But I'm not.
:23:38
I mean, not usually.
Jenny tells me I don't think.
:23:43
Who's Jenny?
:23:44
- My wife.
- And you're...?
:23:47
"Sam."
:23:50
I don't think you're crazy.
:23:52
You're an ordinary guy
who's popped his top.
:23:55
You must connect with those people.
:23:58
They know what it's like to lose their
job, or know someone who has.
:24:03
They'll understand
if you give them a chance.
:24:07
What you might want to do,
before you give up...
:24:11
...is let those people know
what you're about.
:24:14
How?
:24:15
If I put a camera on
and interview you...
:24:18
...and you tell them what's going on,
they'll want to know.
:24:24
Don't you?
:24:25
No.
:24:28
That's your jury pool out there.
:24:32
All right.
:24:35
- Exchange the kids for the interview.
- No.
:24:40
You help them, they help you.
:24:44
- One. One, that's it.
- One's good.
:24:51
I can't do that. I can't put
a hostage-taker on television.
:24:55
I understand, but he's insisting
that I put him on now.