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I'll tell you one thing.
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I don't like this.
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The impression he gets from your work
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is that you're trying to subvert--
to turn around--
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Exactly.
Because it does reverse that,
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especially with religions
like the Catholic religion say,
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"Don't touch your body,
don't think about your body,
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think of the body of Christ."
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Do you find, Bob Flanagan,
that your genitalia
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has acquired sort of a calloused feeling
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and your level of pain experience
has grown higher
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over the years with this kind of work?
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No, that's sort of a myth, I think.
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What happens
is it becomes more sensitized
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but it doesn't require
more and more intensity
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to keep it sensitized,
it becomes actually
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much more sensitive to its environment.
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Certainly, Christ is the very first
or the most famous masochist.
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Do you feel like you're a guinea pig?
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Oh, no,
because I'm in control of the situation.
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I invented this,
so I'm more the mad scientist
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than the guinea pig.
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With all my heart and soul,
all I ever wanted
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was to be strung up,
spanked, splayed, saddled,