1:13:00
outside the campus cafe.
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It was shortly
after Thanksgiving.
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Do you recall the incident?
1:13:11
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I remember.
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It was a stressful time...
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and there was a lot to do
and it was hard.
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So, there was no problem
between you and your father?
1:13:29
No.
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Or your father
and your mother?
1:13:34
My mother and my father?
1:13:37
Of course not.
lt was a busy time.
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I mean, I was
a full-fledged Minnie.
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I remember we were making
the, uh, ornaments...
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the craft ornaments
with the feathers and the sequins...
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for my mother's
Christmas tree in the square.
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And, uh, I would climb
up the ladder...
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and she would tell me
where to put them.
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lt was a lot of fun.
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Yeah, it's really not that bad.
1:14:13
Yeah, it's okay.
1:14:15
You know, I always used to try
to get you to go see Santa.
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For years and years.
And then when you were 8 years old...
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you got in line and you went to
the very front, pulled his beard off...
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- Pulled his beard off.
- and yelled, "Fraud!"
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Your dad was so proud of you.
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Well, guess what?
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- I'm getting in the line. Yes.
- Oh, now you want to.
1:14:48
- Uh-huh.
- Good girl. Go on. Be good.
1:14:54
- Ellen Gulden.
- Hello.
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- Hi.
- I know what you want: