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1:00:03
- When?
- I'll call you when I have my calendar.

1:00:07
- What are you doing for lunch?
- Right now?

1:00:14
...annihilation anxieties
because of a depriving mother,

1:00:18
but either way,
no one can escape the fear of death.

1:00:22
It is, as William James put it,
"the worm at the core".

1:00:26
Try as we may to ignore our own mortality,
"the skull will grin in at the banquet".

1:00:37
I've run on. We're here to talk about you.
1:00:40
Are we?
1:00:43
What Ernest means, I think, is
we're very interested in other methodology.

1:00:49
We're great believers
in learning from each other.

1:00:52
I've learned so much from Ernest.
Dr. Delbanco.

1:00:56
And I from Phyllis.
1:00:57
So, the University of Kentucky,
who runs the programme?

1:01:01
My mentor was an amazing teacher
named Benton Mandlebaum.

1:01:05
Died quite tragically
in the collapse of a gazebo.

1:01:10
Your extended training
was at an institution in that area?

1:01:14
Lots of institutions.
1:01:16
My graduate advisor believed we should
experience prisons, clinics, halfway houses.

1:01:22
For a while I was chief therapist
at a shopping mall.

1:01:26
- Interesting approach. What was his name?
- Dorothy Fowler. Fantastic woman.

1:01:31
She passed last year in a train wreck.
1:01:35
Damned Amtrak.
1:01:43
I trained in the east. Cornell. Whatever
anyone says, there are regional differences.

1:01:49
I found the state certification exams
here harrowing.

1:01:52
Yeah, very tough, but I guess that's good.
Keep out the quacks.

1:01:57
- Which examiner did you have?
- Wallace Franklin from Greensburg.


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