:05:04
You okay?
:05:06
Those guys think
they're revolutionaries.
:05:09
- They're not. We are.
- We are?
:05:11
You know, Steve was
never like you or me.
:05:13
He always saw things differently.
Even then when I was in Berkeley...
:05:16
... I'd see something and just see
kilobytes or circuit boards...
:05:20
... while he'd see karma or the meaning
of the universe.
:05:24
Steve and I found this weird guy
who was a hero around Berkeley...
:05:28
... all because he found a way
to beat the system.
:05:31
This guy was called Captain Crunch...
:05:33
...because he figured out
this little whistle...
:05:37
...that you found in boxes
of Cap'n Crunch cereal...
:05:39
...had the same tones as AT&T's
long-distance equipment.
:05:43
So you got free phone calls
anywhere in the world...
:05:46
... with this thing I built
called the blue box.
:05:49
And then we tested it out
by calling the pope.
:05:51
- You talk to him.
- No, no, no.
:05:52
They're putting you
through to the pope?
:05:54
I totally figured it out, man.
:05:57
I figured it out. I know what it's about.
You know what it's about?
:06:02
It's about power.
:06:04
Right on, man.
:06:06
It's like those weird countries...
:06:08
...where the army guys
overthrow the president.
:06:11
The first thing that they take over...
:06:13
...are the ways people communicate,
you know, radio, TV, newspapers.
:06:18
Far-out, man.
:06:20
Information is power.
:06:25
I kept building the boxes,
and Steve kept selling them...
:06:28
... until one day, we almost
got busted by some cops...
:06:31
... who, thank God, didn't even
know what a blue box was.
:06:37
You might wanna try a haircut, boys.
:06:40
So I started trying to build something
that wasn't gonna get us in trouble.
:06:45
- That's not a blue box.
- It's a computer.
:06:47
Woz, we need blue boxes,
not computers.
:06:50
- I got a reporter from Mercury News coming.
- What for?
:06:53
My mom phoned, told them I was building
a computer, and they wanna do a story.
:06:57
Woz, give me a break.
:06:59
Hey, let me ask you something,
seriously. Look at me.