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	So this is the fourth?
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	- What do you mean?
- When I first met you,
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	didn't you say that
there were five wounds?
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	WeII, this is the fourth. What's the fifth?
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	The spear.
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	That's the wound that kiIIed him.
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	Don't worry, Frankie.
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	No stigmatic has ever received
the fuII five wounds.
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	Have you ever met another person
who had stigmata?
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	I did make a piIgrimage to a smaII viIIage
in the mountains of southern ItaIy.
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	There I met a priest caIIed Padre Pio.
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	He first received the wounds
when he was 23 years of age,
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	the same age as Saint Francis of Assisi.
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	Who's Saint Francis of Assisi?
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	Saint Francis was the first person
to receive the stigmata, in the 1 3thC.
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	He was a wiId young man,
who suddenIy changed his ways
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	after he'd had a vision
of being crucified aIongside Christ.
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	When he woke up, his hands
and his feet were... were bIeeding.
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	This priest,
were his wounds as bad as mine?
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	Padre Pio.
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	Sometimes he Iost a pint of bIood a day.
And he suffered terribIe demonic attacks.
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	A priest?
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	AII stigmatics suffer
the most intense spirituaI confIict.
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	The nearer they come to God,
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	the more open they are to temptation,
to eviI visions,
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	to the torment of their demons.
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	A smeII accompanies the wounds.
The odour of sanctity, the smeII of...
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	FIowers?
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	Yes.
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	FIowers.
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	WeII, what happened to him?
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	How many wounds did he receive?
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	He...
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	He Iived to oId age.
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	How many wounds did he receive?