:39:02
- Like what?
- Like, uh, where'd you work
before Brown &Williamson?
:39:06
Johnson &ohnson.
:39:08
Union Carbide in Japan.
:39:10
I was the general manager and director
of new products. I speak Japanese.
:39:13
I was a director
of corporate development at Pfizer.
:39:18
All health-related.
:39:22
What else
outside the zone?
:39:27
I don't know. Do you think the Knicks
are gonna make it to the semifinals?
:39:35
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Departing]
:39:42
-Just give me an example.
- Okay.
:39:44
For example, um,
James Burke.
:39:46
- C.E.O. of Johnson &Johnson.
- Yeah.
:39:48
When he found out that some lunatic
had put poison in Tylenol bottles,
:39:53
he didn't argue
with the F.D.A.
:39:55
He didn't even wait for the F.D.A.
to tell him. He just pulled Tylenol...
:39:58
off every shelf of every store
right across America, instantly.
:40:02
[ Chuckles ]
And then he developed a safety cap.
:40:05
Because as a C.E.O., sure, he's
gotta be a great businessman, right?
:40:10
But he's also
a man of science.
:40:12
He's not gonna allow his company
to put on the shelf a product
that might hurt people.
:40:17
Not like
the Seven Dwarfs.
:40:19
- Seven Dwarfs?
- Seven C.E.O.s of Big Tobacco.
:40:22
They got in front of Congress
that time. It was on television.
:40:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Swore under oath that
they know nothing about addiction--
:40:27
It was on C-SPAN.
Yeah.
:40:29
Okay, so, here you are.
You-You-You go to work for tobacco.
:40:34
You come from corporate cultures
where research--
:40:36
really creative thinking--
these are core values.
:40:39
You go to tobacco.
Tobacco is a sales culture--
:40:42
market and sell enormous volume,
go to a lot of golf tournaments.
:40:45
The hell with everything else.
What are you doing?
:40:48
- Why are you working
for tobacco in the first place?
- I can't talk about it.
:40:50
- [ Laughs ]
- The work I was supposed to do...
:40:53
might have had some positive effect,
I don't know.
:40:56
Could have been beneficial.
Mostly, I got paid a lot.