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"K"..."P" is twenty-four.
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Thirteen..."E."
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Two..."T."
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Thirteen..."E."
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Twenty-six..."R."
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"Kelson."
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We welcome Peter Kelson...
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author of the current
best-seller "Vicious lntent"...
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as part of today's story
on the trial...
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of mass murderer George Viznik.
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Thankyou so much
forjoining us, Peter.
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Thanksfor having me, Sally.
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Peter,you're making a career of
studying sensational murderers.
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How does itfeel,
day after day...
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face toface with killers?
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Long-term exposure
to these things...
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tends to give you a sort of
clinical understanding...
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of the subject.
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It sounds as if you're saying
the closeryou getto evil...
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the less evil it becomes.
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No,the less mystifying.
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Good and evil
are only illusions.
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I don't believe in evil
with a capital "E."
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That suggests
some kind of externalforce...
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some third-part bad guy
pulling all the strings.
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Are you referring
to the defence's efforts...
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to prove that George Viznik
is tormented by demonic voices?
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There were no voices.
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Not evenfrom mental illness
as the defence asserts?
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Are you trying
to get me to say...
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there's another cause
for little voices?
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No. Viznik's a manipulator.
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He has what I call
malignant narcissism.
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Hey, beautiful.