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you can receive a refund if you don't use the software,
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and that the manufacture is bound by law to do this...
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or it was bond by contract.
1:12:14
and we found if you called up
these manufactures, they basically said...
1:12:18
"Stop bothering me kid." and hung up on you.
1:12:21
We didn't really wanna sort of giving out our location,
1:12:24
or where we were going to meet, until...
1:12:28
you know, the very last seconds.
1:12:29
What we did is, we have people meet
at the place where we could control
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in the different towns around here.
1:12:35
So I was the San Jose marshal, and I believe Nick you were...
1:12:40
I was..., Rick Moen and I did San Francisco.
1:12:42
Right
1:12:43
and so we had maps there and we
handed them off everybody who was coming.
1:12:48
Well, we actually met at a Denny's
That's just outside the Foster City limits...
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Foster City city limits,
1:12:55
which meant also just outside of
Foster City Police jurisdiction,
1:12:59
which meant any, any incidents
that happened at the meeting point
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happened in the jurisdiction of San Mateo,
1:13:06
and if they told us they get lost, we'd say,
"Fine, we are going to Foster city. Bye."
1:13:10
It's sort of the Dukes of Hazzard method of
avoiding the cops, so...
1:13:16
Well actually, originally we marched
on the other side of this building.
1:13:20
We marched around and up onto the parking
structure that's up there,
1:13:25
and that's where Microsoft had a reception
laid out for us with
1:13:29
drinks
and a big sign that said...
1:13:31
"Microsoft Welcomes the Open Source Community".
1:13:34
and the local news cameras got shots of
Eric Raymond and Microsoft representative.
1:13:40
Microsoft's story seems to mostly be that...
1:13:44
...this was not an issue for Microsoft,
rather from the OEMs.
1:13:49
So we all needed to go back to our
computer manufacturers and try yet again
1:13:53
to try and get refund from them.
1:13:56
We responded to them saying, you know,
1:13:58
that we tried that and it's not possible,
we need Microsoft to take action at this point.