:57:00
because they have that kind
of literary, narrative thing
that youre sort of a slave to.
:57:05
The best films are the ones
that aren't tied to that slavishly.
:57:09
So, um--
So-- I don't know--
:57:11
The whole narrative thing
seems to me like--
:57:13
Obviously, there's narrativity
to cinema 'cause it's in time,
:57:15
just the way there's
narrativity to music.
:57:17
You don't first think of the story
of the song, then make the song.
:57:20
It has to come
out of the moment.
:57:23
That's what film has.
It's just that moment, which is holy.
:57:26
You know, like this
moment, it's holy.
:57:29
But we walk around
like it's not holy.
:57:31
We walk around like there's
some holy moments and there
are all the other moments...
:57:33
- that are not holy,
but this moment is holy.
- Right. Right.
:57:36
And film
can let us see that.
:57:38
We can frame it so that we see,
like, "Ah, this moment. Holy."
:57:41
Like "holy, holy, holy"
moment by moment.
:57:44
But who can live that way?
Who can go, "Wow, holy"?
:57:47
Because if I were to look at you
and let you be holy--
:57:49
I don't know. I would,
like, stop talking.
:57:52
Well, you'd be in the moment.
The moment is holy, right?
:57:56
Yeah, but I'd be open.
:57:58
I'd look in your eyes
and I'd cry...
:58:01
and I'd feel all this stuff
and that's not polite.
:58:05
It would make you
uncomfortable.
:58:07
You could laugh too.
Why would you cry?
:58:10
Well, 'cause--
I don't know.
:58:12
For me,
I just tend to cry.
:58:15
Uh-huh. Well--
:58:18
Well, let's do it right now.
Let's have a holy moment.
:58:46
- Everything is layers, isn't it?
- Yeah.
:58:48
There's the holy moment
and then there's the awareness...
:58:51
of trying to have
the holy moment...
:58:53
in the same way that the film
is the actual moment really happening,
:58:56
but then the character pretending
to be in a different reality.