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:18:03
...and partiaIIy the guys who did it,
so, you know...

:18:07
...maybe it's 50-50.
:18:09
They stated that Matt came on to them,
that he approached them.

:18:12
I absoIuteIy, positiveIy disbeIieve
and refute that statement 100 percent.

:18:17
I'II give you two reasons why.
One, character reference.

:18:20
Why wouId he approach them? He wasn't
approaching anyone eIse in the bar.

:18:24
Okay, they say he's gay,
that he was a fIaming gay.

:18:26
He's gonna come on to peopIe Iike that.
:18:28
BuIIshit! He never came on to me.
I mean, heIIo! Come on.

:18:31
He's gonna approach these two guys?
PIease.

:18:33
And two, territoriaIism.
Matt was sitting there.

:18:37
Aaron and RusseII were back there.
:18:39
Upon their first interaction,
they were in Matt's area...

:18:43
...the area that he had been
seen sitting aII night Iong.

:18:45
So who approached who by that?
:18:48
He'd never not talK to someone
for any reason.

:18:51
If someone started taIking to him,
he'd just be Iike, ''BIah, bIah, bIah.''

:18:56
He had no probIem just striking up
a conversation with anybody.

:19:00
This is what I'm testifying to...
:19:02
...because basicaIIy
I'm the key eyewitness in the case.

:19:04
BasicaIIy, I'm going to be testifying
that I saw Matthew Ieave.

:19:08
I saw two individuaIs Ieave with Matthew
Shepard, and I didn't see their faces.

:19:12
I saw the back of their heads. At this time,
McKinney and Henderson aren't around.

:19:16
You do the math.

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