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When that defense team argued that
McKinney did what he did...
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...because Matthew made a pass at him...
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...I just wanted to vomit...
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...because that's Iike saying it's okay.
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It was disgusting
and we were aII just disgusted.
1:14:13
It was disgusting
and we were aII just disgusted.
1:14:16
It was just rude,
and that was Iess than integrous behavior.
1:14:20
We were aII just disgusted
by that quaIity of defense.
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It's Iike the Twinkie defense, when the guy
kiIIed Harvey MiIk and Moscone.
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It's the same thing.
1:14:29
As much as a part of me didn't want
the defense saying that...
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...it was a gay bashing or gay panic...
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...a part of me was reaIIy gratefuI.
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Because I was reaIIy afraid that
in this triaI they were gonna try...
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...and say that it was a robbery,
or it was about drugs.
1:14:45
So when they used gay panic
as the defense...
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...I thought, ''This is good...
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''...because if nothing eIse,
the truth is gonna come out.
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''The truth is gonna be told.''
1:14:59
About how many times
did you hit him in the trucK...
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...before you guys stopped
where you Ieft him?
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I'd say I hit him two or three times.
1:15:07
ProbabIy three times with my fists
and six times with the pistoI.
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Did he ask you to stop?
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Yeah, he was getting
the shit kicked out of him.
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What did he say?
1:15:17
After he asked me to stop,
most aII he was doing was screaming.
1:15:25
Was Matthew conscious
whiIe RusseII was tying him to the fence?
1:15:28
Yeah.
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I toId him, ''Turn around and don't Iook
at my Iicense pIate number''...
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...because I was scared
he wouId teII the poIice.
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And then I asked him
what my Iicense pIate said.
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He read it and that's why I hit him
a few more times.
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Just to be sure?
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My secret hope was that they were
from somewhere else...
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...that then you can create this distance.
1:15:51
We don't grow chiIdren Iike that here.
1:15:55
It's pretty cIear we do grow chiIdren
Iike that here.
1:15:59
So obviousIy you don't Iike gay peopIe?