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Ortega said that useless effort
leads to melancholy.
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Today, politically speaking,
the only possible path
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is through an understanding
between socialists and nationalists.
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It can't be ruled out that,
any of these days,
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when all signs of violence have
totally and definitively disappeared
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the Basques, using
the necessary legal formula,
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may, in accordance with the state,
seek some kind of consultation
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similar to the consultations
carried out in Quebec, Canada.
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Peace will come as a result of
the combination of two factors.
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An end to violence
and multi-party talks
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which end up, finally,
as a social consultation.
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There is undoubtedly
a Basque wound
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for those who are nationalists
from birth.
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The Basques have never
willingly accepted
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being ordered by others.
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We've been
demanding something
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and we've been ignored.
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A metaphor would be
that of a huge tongue
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which is constantly touching
a painful tooth.
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It's the measure of an obvious
national dissatisfaction.
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There are reasons
for the frustration
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that is found among the people.
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There is undoubtedly
a feeling of frustration.
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Our reality
is a bit frustrating.
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This frustration is...
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Yes, we do feel frustrated...
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That creates a kind of
"victimization".
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I believe that everything
that is small has a tendency
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to disappear,
I think that's how it is.
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The leader of the Basque
government, lbarretxe,
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has proposed that
from September 2003
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there should be a new status
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of free association
with the Spanish State,