:59:01
The reason it came in late...
:59:03
We were so struggling with
what makes it the world of chaos...
:59:06
Tim, you came up with that whole...
:59:08
Yeah. I think we were playing with
all sorts of different ideas for Tartarus...
:59:12
including the more Alice In Wonderland
set of things where gravity worked wrong...
:59:16
and what was down was up...
:59:18
and it always seemed like
we could never go far enough with that.
:59:21
It always seemed a little comic
rather than mysterious.
:59:24
Ronnie Del Carmen came up with
some incredible ideas...
:59:27
with a surreal pass of Tartarus.
:59:30
They are playing with all these
sort of visual...
:59:34
- Almost Daliesque.
- Yeah, Daliesque.
:59:38
Nice place you got here.
:59:40
The sand for me is this great
sort of hourglass, ocean symbolism...
:59:45
and works very well with Eris...
:59:48
as her sort of trophy case
with fallen armies and ruined cities...
:59:51
and wrecked battleships.
:59:53
What makes you think I have it?
:59:55
She's having a good time.
And so is Michelle actually...
:59:58
doing a scene like this where you get to
gloat as the villainess of the picture.
1:00:02
She really nailed a lot of the stuff.
1:00:04
I think in some ways we found Eris
and the tone of her character...
1:00:07
from this scene late in the picture...
1:00:09
and sort of worked backwards
to have this much fun with her earlier.
1:00:13
So you often record things
out of order with your actors...
1:00:15
and when we discovered this
with Michelle...
1:00:17
we thought we'd really found
the power and fun of Eris.
1:00:21
...glorious chaos.
1:00:23
You humans are so...
1:00:25
By this point, Dan Wagner,
Eris' lead animator had a lot of help.
1:00:29
We were late in the game with a lot
of Eris' stuff, so a lot of the other leads...
1:00:33
helped out in this scene, jumped on board.
Everybody had a frustrating but fun time...
1:00:37
with Eris, having to learn
a new character late in the game.
1:00:40
We used to animate Eris without hair,
and put the hair in a couple of drawings...
1:00:44
and then go back and forth
with the effects crew.
1:00:48
It was tough to give her the power
she has if you imagine her bald.
1:00:51
She'd look like she had a shower cap on.
1:00:55
A lot more powerful with the flow here.
1:00:59
Yeah, and Dan really wanted to make
the hair as part of the whole character.