:18:01
Let me bring in Granwyth on that.
Is that a fair point?
:18:05
Well, of course it is, but I think Barry,
as well as all the other protesters,
:18:09
are simply, in a word, focused too much
on reality and on facts and figures.
:18:14
And I think I would have to say
that this is a long-term problem
:18:18
that comes down
to a problem of education.
:18:20
We have to find a way to convince
perhaps not the protesters
:18:25
but the protesters' children
:18:27
to follow thinkers like Milton Friedman
and Darwin and-and so on,
:18:32
rather than what the protesters
have been reared on...
:18:35
Trotsky and Robespierre
and Abbie Hoffman.
:18:38
And I think that putting
the direction of education,
:18:42
being put into private hands...
:18:45
a concentration of resources
in the private sector...
:18:48
will naturally lead to this result,
:18:50
and we'll see
the protesters' children being reared
:18:52
with an entirely different
set of concerns.
:18:55
Let me bring you in on that, Barry.
:18:56
Can-can I just say
:18:58
that these kind of simplistic arguments
:19:00
are really, I mean, too insulting
to most people to believe.
:19:04
The fact that we have a choice between
Milton Friedman or Abbie Hoffman
:19:07
for where we get our source
of economic history and philosophy.
:19:11
There are many, many thinkers
from around the world...
:19:14
just not those ones
employed by the WTO...
:19:16
that think the World Trade Organization
policies are deeply damaging
:19:20
for the development prospects
of the poorest countries.
:19:23
Let me go out to Granwyth.
:19:26
Yes. Well, I wanted to speak
to Granwyth-sorry-to Barry's point
:19:31
that there are other thinkers.
:19:33
Well, who actually has the power
in the world, and so who is correct
:19:37
in this kind of world view?
:19:38
I mean, I think the answer is easy.
:19:41
And if you look at the views
held by myself, my organization,
:19:44
and many, many
of the decision-makers in the world...
:19:48
the powerful people-they happen
to coincide with what I'm explaining.
:19:52
And I think this is enough
in this sort of view.
:19:55
Briefly, Barry.
:19:57
So, I mean-what we have here
:19:58
is a picture of the rich and powerful people
believe a certain philosophy