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"There's so much weirdness
you've never seen in your life. "
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Just always,
there'd be people coming and going.
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I have studied at Oxford University...
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I've done my research
at the British Museum...
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and have matriculated at Brooklyn College.
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Sawdust on the floor, tourist traps...
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like, a poet, somebody singing a song
with a parrot on a shoulder...
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Tiny Tim-type characters.
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No one who had any recordings out
ever played them.
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You only played those if you had to.
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You would have to
make an impression on somebody.
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There were many, many singers
who were good...
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but they couldn't focus
their attention on anybody.
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They couldn't really
get inside somebody's head.
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You gotta be able to pin somebody down.
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I remember him because he was different.
He was doing Woody Guthrie songs.
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He had on a little hat, he had a brace.
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There's a quality of determination...
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and of will that some people have...
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where when they're doing something,
they're really doing it...
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and you know that
you have to pay attention to them.
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I first met Bob in the winter of 1961.
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We were awkward.
Neither of us really knew quite what to say.
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So as a prop he pulled out this card.
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And he was moving his leg like that
and he just hands me the card.
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And after he handed it to me
he kind of glances and then...
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continues to sort of
talk about Woody Guthrie.
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And on the card it said,
"I ain't dead yet," signed, Woody Guthrie.
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And it was actually Woody's handwriting,
I guess, because Bob claimed it was.
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Like, Woody was very important
to both of us.
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Bob, I think, wanted to be
more like Woody than I did.
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He was able to adopt
a kind of theater about himself.
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Actually, the very first time that I met him,
he was really acting, in a way.
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And that was good because you can
go anywhere when you're somebody else.
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Cinderella, she seems so easy