:09:05
I'm interested in interior experiences,
especially the religious experience.
:09:09
The only reason I'm working
with schizophrenics now...
:09:12
...is the religious experience is
so significant in schizophrenia.
:09:16
There's only so much
you can do with animals.
:09:18
I worked with monkeys...
:09:19
...but they can't tell you what goes on
in their consciousness.
:09:21
You need human beings for that.
:09:23
You can't ablate human beings,
nor stick electrodes in their skulls...
:09:27
...so I have to use
a trance-inducing technique...
:09:30
...and the isolation tank seemed
the least risky.
:09:32
And I'd like to go home with you tonight.
Would that be all right with you?
:09:37
I've got a roommate.
We'll be confined to the living-room couch.
:09:42
What's wrong with the living-room couch?
:09:44
You tend to slip off a lot.
:09:47
I'm sure we'll manage.
:09:49
I'm sure we will.
:09:54
So, whenever you want to go there,
you let me know.
:09:59
How about right now?
:10:16
What are you thinking about?
:10:18
God...
:10:21
...Jesus, crucifixions.
:10:26
As a rule, do you usually think about
Christ and crucifixions under sexual stress?
:10:38
When I was nine years old,
I used to see visions...
:10:42
...visions of saints and angels,
even Christ himself.
:10:49
Of course I don't do that anymore...
:10:55
...not since I was 16.
:10:58
Were your parents religious?