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- Meneer Du Toit.
- Come in, Meneer Du Toit.
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- Colonel Viljoen. Captain Stolz.
- Pleasure to meet you.
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I used to watch you play for the Transvaal.
You were one of the great flyhalves.
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That was a long time ago.
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- Would you sign an autograph for my son?
- With great pleasure.
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- What's his name?
- Jaanie.
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My son will be thrilled.
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- He plays rugby?
- Soccer.
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Traitor.
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- Thanks very much. See you later, Colonel.
- Thank you.
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Please sit down.
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So you're inquiring
about detainee Gordon Ngubene.
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Yes.
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I thought there might have been
some kind of misunderstanding...
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- that I could help straighten out.
- Misunderstanding?
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I've known Gordon Ngubene
for over 15 years, Colonel.
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He is an honest, diligent,
hardworking African.
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I can't imagine why he's being detained.
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You'd be surprised how many...
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honest, churchgoing Bantu
we come across during a working day.
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Meneer Du Toit, our task is not an easy one.
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The press screaming bloody murder,
especially the English...
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and they will be the first to squeal
if the Reds took over, make no mistake.
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We're just doing our job.
I'm sure you understand.
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Of course I understand, Colonel.
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I know how complex your position is.
I was just trying to say that...
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we're only human,
and we can all make a mistake.
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Yeah, we can indeed.
Meneer Du Toit, we can indeed.
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And I think one might have been made here.
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Would you mind if I asked you
a few questions about Ngubene?
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I'd welcome it.
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Did he ever discuss
his son's death with you?
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I was the one who broke the news to him.
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But he accepted the truth?