1:03:02
Dan Enright had a lot
to do with that.
1:03:05
Yeah, but don't you think
he wanted you to win ?
1:03:07
l mean, if you look at the ratings,
they're staggering.
1:03:10
[ Chuckles ] Well, what did he say,
they ''made'' him take a dive ?
1:03:14
- Well.
- Well, how did they ''make'' him
take a dive anyway ?
1:03:17
He didn't want to jeopardize any
future he might have in television.
1:03:19
- [ Chuckles ]
- Yeah, well-- [ Chuckles ]
1:03:23
Anyway, how many people did you say
testified in front of the grand jury ?
1:03:27
Why ?
What's your point ?
1:03:29
Well, if what you're saying
is true, then everybody lied.
1:03:44
- [ Freedman ] Hi. Al Freedman.
- Hi. l'm Danny.
1:03:46
Good to see you. l'm sorry for
the delay. Come on in. Have a seat.
1:03:49
- Would you like a cup of coffee
or a soft drink ?
- Anything ?
1:03:52
- l'm fine. Thanks.
- You sure ?
1:03:53
- We're very well stocked up here.
- Nothing ?
- l'm fine.
1:03:55
- No trouble.
- l understand you've spoken
to Charles Van Doren.
1:03:58
- And Herbert Stempel.
- Oh, l was afraid of that.
1:04:01
He says and l quote,
that he was made to ''take a dive.''
1:04:04
Believe me, l'm quite familiar
with Herb's allegations.
l could recite them by rote.
1:04:08
Forty-six witnesses swore up and down
Herbie's a lying tub of shit.
1:04:10
- Al.
- Sorry.
1:04:12
- Why the big secret ?
- Well, to protect people's reputations.
1:04:15
l mean, frankly, you never know what
the public is gonna believe, you see ?
1:04:20
There's that and, um--
1:04:24
And what ?
1:04:26
- Look, Dick, l wa--
Can l call you Dick ?
- Sure, Dan.
1:04:30
After the loss, Herb came to
visit me in an agitated--
1:04:33
- Well, l suppose the clinical
term would be, uh... what ?
- The guy's nuts.
1:04:38
- Manic. He was in
a manic frame of mind.
- Manic.
1:04:41
And l took the precaution
of tape recording that meeting.
1:04:44
Al, would you...
play the tape ?
1:04:46
Listen to this.
1:04:48
[ Stempel ] You get me
that panel show...
1:04:51
or l'm gonna bring you down,
you lousy lyin' prick !
1:04:54
You and Charles
Van fuckin' Doren !
1:04:56
[ Enright On Tape ] What is this,
Herb ? Are you blackmailin' me ?
1:04:59
l need that money, Dan. l need
to get back on television.
You get me that panel show...