1:04:01
He says and l quote,
that he was made to ''take a dive.''
1:04:04
Believe me, l'm quite familiar
with Herb's allegations.
l could recite them by rote.
1:04:08
Forty-six witnesses swore up and down
Herbie's a lying tub of shit.
1:04:10
- Al.
- Sorry.
1:04:12
- Why the big secret ?
- Well, to protect people's reputations.
1:04:15
l mean, frankly, you never know what
the public is gonna believe, you see ?
1:04:20
There's that and, um--
1:04:24
And what ?
1:04:26
- Look, Dick, l wa--
Can l call you Dick ?
- Sure, Dan.
1:04:30
After the loss, Herb came to
visit me in an agitated--
1:04:33
- Well, l suppose the clinical
term would be, uh... what ?
- The guy's nuts.
1:04:38
- Manic. He was in
a manic frame of mind.
- Manic.
1:04:41
And l took the precaution
of tape recording that meeting.
1:04:44
Al, would you...
play the tape ?
1:04:46
Listen to this.
1:04:48
[ Stempel ] You get me
that panel show...
1:04:51
or l'm gonna bring you down,
you lousy lyin' prick !
1:04:54
You and Charles
Van fuckin' Doren !
1:04:56
[ Enright On Tape ] What is this,
Herb ? Are you blackmailin' me ?
1:04:59
l need that money, Dan. l need
to get back on television.
You get me that panel show...
1:05:02
- or l'll tell everyone it's a fraud.
- You know that's not true.
1:05:05
Who cares if it's true ? ''The fix is in
this week on Twenty-One.''
1:05:07
Okay.
1:05:12
So he needed more money
after all that money he won.
1:05:15
Gambling.
And that's the least of it.
1:05:18
l mean, if the judge was protecting
anyone, he was protecting Herb.
1:05:22
Given--
Well--
1:05:26
- His medical condition.
- [ Scoffs ] His medical condition ?
1:05:31
- Oh, yeah.
- Al, get the bills.
1:05:35
l mean, put yourself
in his shoes.
1:05:37
He's no longer
in the public eye.
1:05:40
He's remembered, if he's
remembered at all, as ''the guy
that lost to Van Doren.''
1:05:44
Television is like
a monkey on his back,
1:05:46
and we're not talking about someone who
is necessarily stable to begin with.
1:05:48
- No.
- So you paid for his psychoanalysis ?
1:05:52
- l felt responsible.
- You're too nice.
1:05:54
- No, l'm not.
- lf it were up to me, l would've sent
him to the skating rink the fast way.
1:05:56
- Five sessions a week ?
- Five, and not a dent.