:16:00
for Columbine School.
:16:01
- Really?
- Yeah.
:16:03
- After Columbine,
what was it like here in Oscoda?
:16:06
- My name was second-highest
on the bomb list,
:16:08
because of the reputation
you get in this town.
:16:11
- Why? You mean
they did a list of--
:16:14
- Of suspects.
- Of students who potentially--
:16:16
- Yeah.
- ...would call in a bomb threat
:16:17
after Columbine?
- Yes.
:16:19
- And you were number two
on the list?
:16:21
- I was second or third
on the list, yeah.
:16:23
- Why is that?
- Because the whole fact is,
:16:27
like I said, this town
really gets people down.
:16:30
- Yeah, but why
did they single you out?
:16:32
- Because I was a troubled kid.
- You were in trouble in school?
:16:36
- Oh, yeah.
Why did they put you
:16:38
number two on their list,
after Columbine,
:16:41
of the students
that could be a threat?
:16:45
Come on, there must be a reason.
- Well, okay. The thing is,
:16:48
I have a thing, it's called
the "Anarchist Cookbook."
:16:50
It shows you how to make bombs
and stuff like that.
:16:53
If there's anything
that went wrong,
:16:55
they're gonna come to me first.
:16:57
And I don't need that.
- Just 'cause you owned a copy
:16:59
of the book?
- Just because I own a copy--
:17:02
- Never made a bomb yourself?
- No. Oh, I've made 'em.
:17:05
It was nothing big; it wasn't
even as big as a pipe bomb.
:17:08
It was just... some make it
like a little tennis-ball bomb
:17:10
or something like that.
:17:14
Out of the "Anarchist Cookbook,"
the latest thing I built...
:17:18
I think, would have to be...
I think I made it, like,
:17:21
about a good five-gallon drum
of napalm.
:17:25
You know, homemade napalm.
:17:28
- Kids knew that
you were doing this?
:17:29
- Yeah.
- So you were number two, then,
:17:31
on the list.
- Right.
:17:33
- Who was number one?
- I don't know.
:17:35
They never told me that name.
Which kind of made me mad.
:17:38
'Cause I didn't make it
to number one.
:17:41
I know it's kind of silly,
but I guess
:17:44
it'd been kind of an ego thing,
knowing that I was number one
:17:47
at something in Oscoda, even
if it was a bomb-threat list.
:17:51
- Do you believe it was right
:17:53
to blow up the building
in Oklahoma City?
:17:55
I'm not saying you did it.
- No. No, no, no.
:17:58
- I'm just saying: was it right?
- Why was it "blowed up"?