:57:02
and I
:57:03
Well let's start
from right now.
:57:05
OK, let's start
from right now.
:57:07
All right, let's start
from right now.
:57:08
We'll all start brand new.
:57:11
We have a decision making
process on the table.
:57:14
Great.
:57:15
All the past mistakes,
they were mistakes.
:57:16
We're not gonna hold them
against anyone.
:57:17
Great, great.
:57:19
Now we're starting afresh.
:57:23
Stop. Lower your voice,
and talk nicely to your sons.
:57:27
Alright, now we're gonna do it,
starting now.
:57:29
Seth, why don't you call me?
:57:30
Do I bawl you out?
:57:32
Seth is
:57:35
...against me
:57:36
and she can't hold it
against me.
:57:37
Well, now it's time
to call it
:57:39
'cause Mommy's sad
and stuff.
:58:08
I think there
was a recognition
:58:09
that Arnold's case was becoming
increasingly hopeless
:58:13
because of the child
pornography problem
:58:14
because of other people
coming out of the woodwork.
:58:17
So the strategy evolved to
:58:20
"What can we do to save Jesse?"
:58:23
Jesse's lawyer
very eloquently said to us
:58:27
"If there's a rowboat
and it's sinking
:58:30
and the rowboat
is tied to a rock
:58:33
you have to disconnect
the rowboat from the rock
:58:35
and save the rowboat
:58:37
even though the rock
is sinking"
:58:38
Meaning you had to separate
Arnold from Jesse.
:58:42
And Arnold was going to plead
:58:44
and Jesse would
in some way benefit.
:58:48
I was sitting there
potentially going to trial
:58:51
with no pornographic magazines
admitted into evidence
:58:53
without an adult pedophile
as a co-defendant
:58:56
and I understood
that sort of reasoning