:18:00
can obtain a total liberation
of the Basque Country.
:18:03
When a society accepts that, given
there are political problems,...
:18:07
It's pathological.
:18:08
violence is justified,
:18:10
it's impossible to make thatjump
:18:12
without first suffering
a moral collapse.
:18:15
It's as if the intelligence
were confused by patriotic emotion.
:18:21
It isn't true that
ETA is the only conflict.
:18:23
Even if ETA didn't exist,
and in fact before ETA existed,
:18:26
there was conflict.
:18:28
Perhaps terrorism is a product
of those unresolved questions.
:18:33
Euskal Herria is the name used
:18:35
to encompass the 7 provinces,
:18:39
3 in France,
:18:41
and the 4 in Spain which are
:18:43
the 3 in the Autonomous Basque
Community, or Euskadi,
:18:46
and Navarre,
:18:47
which has its own autonomy.
:18:50
Historian and writer
:18:53
Secretary General of
the Union of the People of Navarre
:18:57
Historian
:19:01
Co-founder of ETA
:19:04
Member of the Aralar Group
which condemns attacks by ETA
:19:08
Euskal Herria didn't exist
in the sense of political unity
:19:12
because the idea of Basque
citizenship didn't exist.
:19:15
The Basques did have
their own state.
:19:18
It was Navarre.
:19:19
The Autonomous Basque Community
that exists today
:19:22
was never part
of the Kingdom of Navarre
:19:24
or of the ancient
Kingdom of Pamplona.
:19:27
The present union of the
4 Basque-Navarre territories
:19:33
has only been in existence
for some thirty years.
:19:36
We lived for five centuries
under the national control
:19:41
of our people,
the Kingdom of Navarre.
:19:44
The French and Spanish states
:19:47
hide the reality of those conquests
in their historiography.
:19:51
You must distinguish
between myth, history
:19:54
and history created by myth,
:19:56
because at some point
the myth is accepted.
:19:59
Son of José Javier Múgica,
UPN councilor in Leiza, (Navarre)