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You make a journey of 2,000 kms.
in just over a day.
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It's crazy. The poor little thing,
all this journey.
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Widow of the "ertzaina"
(Basque policeman) Ramón Doral,
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assassinated by ETA in 1996.
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When they killed Montxo,
Jokin was just 18 months old.
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He kept saying: "Aita?",
as if asking 'Where's Daddy?"
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I would answer:
"Aita, joan da"
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Daddy's gone.
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At first,
that was enough.
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He was away for three years,
in exile,
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then he was arrested
in Barcelona.
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We met up when we were both
in a group of militants,
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when we were young.
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One day, in the car, he asked me:
"Why did they kill him?"
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I explained that some men
thought his "aita"was bad
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and they decided to kill him.
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I've been going to visit
a relative for fourteen years.
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The only thing I can do
is offer him this support,
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go and visit him.
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He said: "Then I'm going
to kill them", and I told him:
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"Thinking someone is bad
is no reason to kill him.
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You could be wrong".
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40 minutes in a little cubicle,
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where you can't hear anything,
you aren't comfortable.
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He never asked me how
he was killed. A friend told him.
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She said that they'd put a bomb
in his father's car.
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He always thought
that they'd shot him.
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Secretary General
of the Euskadi Socialist Party
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Former Minister of Industry
for PSOE.
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Former President
of the Euskadi Socialist Party
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"Father" of
the Spanish Constitution
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There has been an understanding
between socialists and nationalists
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since the days of the republic,