:38:01
The only thing I can do
is offer him this support,
:38:03
go and visit him.
:38:04
He said: "Then I'm going
to kill them", and I told him:
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"Thinking someone is bad
is no reason to kill him.
:38:11
You could be wrong".
:38:12
40 minutes in a little cubicle,
:38:15
where you can't hear anything,
you aren't comfortable.
:38:19
He never asked me how
he was killed. A friend told him.
:38:23
She said that they'd put a bomb
in his father's car.
:38:26
He always thought
that they'd shot him.
:38:34
Secretary General
of the Euskadi Socialist Party
:38:39
Former Minister of Industry
for PSOE.
:38:43
Former President
of the Euskadi Socialist Party
:38:47
"Father" of
the Spanish Constitution
:38:53
There has been an understanding
between socialists and nationalists
:38:56
since the days of the republic,
:39:00
and then, during the transition,
:39:03
there were socialist-nationalist
coalition governments.
:39:07
I think it was a very good period
:39:09
as regards cooperation
and the easing of many tensions.
:39:14
The basis of the Statute of Autonomy
was developed then,
:39:19
under the Socialist government
which came into power in 1982.
:39:23
The Socialist Party
had a majority
:39:26
but it handed the government
over to the nationalists.
:39:29
We need to go back
to what were
:39:31
maybe not good days
but certainly were better days.
:39:36
When Felipe González left...
:39:39
He learned some hard lessons
and suffered with this phenomenon,
:39:43
so he decided to begin talks.
He went to Algiers.
:39:47
I don't know
why that didn't work out.
:39:50
But when Felipe González left
he'd opened a door to ETA
:39:55
for creating an area of dialogue.