:39:00
and then, during the transition,
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there were socialist-nationalist
coalition governments.
:39:07
I think it was a very good period
:39:09
as regards cooperation
and the easing of many tensions.
:39:14
The basis of the Statute of Autonomy
was developed then,
:39:19
under the Socialist government
which came into power in 1982.
:39:23
The Socialist Party
had a majority
:39:26
but it handed the government
over to the nationalists.
:39:29
We need to go back
to what were
:39:31
maybe not good days
but certainly were better days.
:39:36
When Felipe González left...
:39:39
He learned some hard lessons
and suffered with this phenomenon,
:39:43
so he decided to begin talks.
He went to Algiers.
:39:47
I don't know
why that didn't work out.
:39:50
But when Felipe González left
he'd opened a door to ETA
:39:55
for creating an area of dialogue.
:40:04
I'm not just opposed
to violence by ETA.
:40:07
I'm opposed to any violence,
:40:09
whether it's by someone
who plants a bomb
:40:12
or by a civil guard, for instance,
who tortures a person
:40:18
because he thinks that person
is something or other.
:40:22
Arrested by the Civil Guards
in Pamplona (Navarre) in May 2002
:40:26
for alleged collaboration with ETA.
:40:28
After 5 days she was released
without charges.
:40:33
They asked me questions.
I answered them,
:40:36
but they didn't like my answers
so they hit me
:40:40
on the head, on the arms.
They put me up against the wall.
:40:45
They started shouting
and insulting me.
:40:49
A lot of people who have
nothing to do with ETA,
:40:52
who, at most, coincide
ideologically with Batasuna,
:40:56
have been arrested and tortured.
:40:58
Their families have been
contaminated by violence