1:22:00
of the Popular Party?
1:22:03
It's obvious, because people
from both parties are being killed.
1:22:06
We coincided with the PP
on the defense of the Constitution.
1:22:10
ETA makes a political analysis,
it picks its victims for a reason.
1:22:14
I get the impression
1:22:16
they killed Ernest Lluch
1:22:18
to close off the route being
followed by the Socialist Party
1:22:22
which supported
a political solution and talks
1:22:26
with the Basque Government
1:22:27
and also to contribute
1:22:28
to what came later,
1:22:30
which was to push
the Socialist Party even further
1:22:33
into the arms of the PP.
1:22:35
I am convinced that Ernest
1:22:38
would have wanted to have talks,
even with the person who killed him.
1:22:42
You, who can have talks,
please do so.
1:22:55
Forensic officer
1:23:00
In the 80s, almost 100% of those
arrested alleged ill-treatment.
1:23:04
That has been greatly exaggerated.
1:23:06
I'm not saying
there wasn't ill-treatment.
1:23:08
Jáuregui, the Civil Governor
assassinated by ETA,
1:23:12
one of the first things he did
was close the cells
1:23:15
belonging to the Guardia Civil
in San Sebastian
1:23:18
after he saw them.
1:23:19
He saw the place,
not the people who were in it,
1:23:23
just the installations.
1:23:24
I think that matter
has been settled.
1:23:27
I think it's a subject
which is gradually
1:23:30
returning to normal.
1:23:32
Bear in mind that many of those
arrested at the present time
1:23:37
do not allege
ill-treatment or torture.
1:23:39
Amnesty International
and other organizations
1:23:41
are worried by
the anti-terrorist legislation.
1:23:45
I think we should be
much more belligerent about torture.
1:23:50
The legislation allows people
to be held for 5 days incomunicado
1:23:54
and no one knows
what goes on then.
1:23:56
We've seen how many young people
are put in prison,