:27:00
I see the people that do the real work
:27:02
and what's really said,
in a way, is that...
:27:03
the people that are
the most giving, hard working
:27:06
and capable of making this world better,
:27:08
usually don't have the ego
and ambition to be a leader.
:27:12
They don't see the interest
in superficial rewards,
:27:15
they don't care if their name
ever appear in the press,
:27:18
they actually enjoy the process
of helping others,
:27:21
they're in the moment!
:27:23
Yeah, but that's so hard!
:27:24
You know, to be in the moment,
:27:25
and I just feel like I'm...
:27:27
designed to be slightly
dissatisfied with everything...
:27:31
You know, I mean, like...
always trying to better my situation.
:27:34
You know, I satisfy
one desire, and it just...
:27:37
agitates another, you know?
:27:38
Then I think:
to hell with everything, right?
:27:39
I mean, desire is the fuel of life
:27:41
I mean, do you think
it's true that if...
:27:45
if we never wanted anything,
we'd never be unhappy?
:27:47
I don't know...
:27:48
Not wanting anything,
isn't that...
:27:51
a symptom of depression?
:27:53
Yeah, that is, right?
:27:54
I mean, it's healthy to desire, right?
:27:57
Yeah...
:27:57
I don't know,
:27:59
I mean, it's what all those
Buddhist guys say, right?
:28:01
You know, liberate yourself from desire
:28:02
and you'll find that you already
have everything you need.
:28:05
Yeah, but I feel really
alive when I want
:28:07
something more than
just basic survival needs.
:28:09
I mean, wanting whether it's...
intimacy with another person,
:28:12
or a new pair of shoes,
is kind of beautiful...
:28:14
I like that we have those
ever-renewing desires.
:28:18
Well, maybe it's just
a sense of entitlement.
:28:20
You know, like whenever
you feel like you
:28:21
deserve that new pair
of shoes, you know.
:28:24
It's ok to want things as long as
you don't get pissed off
:28:26
if you don't get them.
:28:27
- Yeah.
- Right, life's hard.
:28:29
It's suppose to be.
:28:30
If we didn't suffer, we wouldn't
learn a thing, you know?
:28:35
So, what? Are you a Buddhist
or something?
:28:38
No.
:28:38
No? Why not?
:28:41
I don't know, I...
:28:42
Same reason I don't consider
myself anything, really.
:28:46
Yeah, I know. I decided
a long time ago that
:28:48
I was gonna to be open to everything,
:28:49
but, not buy into any
one-and-only belief system.
:28:54
I went to this...
:28:55
trapist monastery,
a couple of years ago.
:28:57
Trapist?
:28:58
Yeah, they're Catholics,
Cistercians.