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I believe that ETA is
a deep-rooted, political problem,
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that the Basque conflict
is political,
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and that if it is resolved
politically
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its effects will also be resolved.
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Which is more important,
or more valuable?
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The individual rights
of a person
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or the collective rights
of an abstract Basque people?
:16:23
They even deny
the existence of a people,
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because one thing leads to another.
:16:28
If you accept there is
a Basque people,
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you accept their collective will,
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their right to decide
for and about themselves.
:16:37
So the easiest thing
is to deny it.
:16:39
There is no people, no collective
rights, only individual rights.
:16:42
ETA is the last manifestation
of an atavistic people.
:16:45
In 200 years,
every generation of Basques
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has sufferedjail, exile, torture
and death for political reasons.
:16:52
In Shakespeare's "Macbeth" there
is an image of a lake of blood.
:16:57
After we've committed
the first murder
:16:59
and are submerged in that lake,
:17:01
we can only move forward.
It's senseless to go back
:17:04
because how can we explain
what we've done?
:17:06
It's the definition of fascism.
:17:08
Why do the military
have to stay in the barracks?
:17:11
They have the guns. They can't
have the right to speak as well.
:17:15
These people want both things.
:17:18
What's being debated isn't
nationalism or non-nationalism.
:17:21
It's civilization or barbarity.
:17:24
The so-called democratic nationalism
should have realized that,
:17:28
and fought with all its means
against that horror.
:17:31
When someone is assassinated
in this country
:17:34
a part of what we are
is shattered.
:17:38
Philosopher
:17:42
Journalist
:17:46
Journalist, editor and writer
:17:50
Journalist
:17:55
There is a line of thought
:17:57
that only the nationalist
extreme left-wing