:01:08
You did a wonderful job. Wonderful.
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You did it. You did it!
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To continue, you've listened to a long and
complex case, murder in the first degree.
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Premeditated murder is the most serious
charge tried in our criminal courts.
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You've listened to the testimony, had the
law interpreted as it applies in this case.
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It's now your duty to sit down and try
and separate the facts from the fancy.
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One man is dead.
Another man's life is at stake.
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If there's a reasonable doubt in your
minds as to the guilt of the accused -
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a reasonable doubt-then you must
bring me a verdict of not guilty.
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If there's no reasonable doubt,
then you must, in good conscience,
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find the accused guilty.
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However you decide,
your verdict must be unanimous.
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In the event that
you find the accused guilty,
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the bench will not entertain
a recommendation for mercy.
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The death sentence is mandatory
in this case.
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You are faced with a grave responsibility.
Thank you, gentlemen.
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The alternate jurors are excused.
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The jury will now retire.
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- Wanna piece of gum?
- No, thanks.
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This thing isn't movin'.
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- I'll give you a hand.
- That's it.
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You know somethin'? I called
the Weather Bureau this morning.
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This is gonna be
the hottest day of the year.
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You'd think they'd air-condition this place.
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- What is your name, sir?
- Oh, it's... that one. Yeah.
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Thank you very much.
OK, gentlemen. Everybody's here.
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Now, if there's anything you want,
I'll be right outside the door. Just knock.
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Good morning.
I never knew they locked the door.
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Sure they lock the door.
What'd you think?
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I don't know. It just never occurred to me.
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- What's that for?
- I thought we might wanna vote by ballot.
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Great idea. Maybe we can
get him elected senator.
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- How'd you like it?
- I don't know. It was pretty interesting.
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- Yeah? I almost fell asleep.
- I mean, I've never been on a jury before.
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No? I've sat on many juries.
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Those lawyers talk and talk, even when
it's an open-and-shut case like this one.
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- Ever hear so much talk about nothin'?
- I guess they're entitled.
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They're entitled. It's the system, but...
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if you ask me, I'd slap those tough kids
down before they start any trouble.
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It saves a lot of time and money.
Let's get started.
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Yeah. We've probably all
got things to do here.
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We can start with a five-minute break.
One gentleman is in the bathroom.
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Are... we gonna sit in order?
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Gee, I don't know. I guess so.
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- Buddy, you're in my seat.
- Oh, excuse me.
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That's all right.
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Hey, that's not a bad view, huh?
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What did you think of the case?
I mean, it had a lot of interest for me.
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No real... dead spots.
You know what I mean?
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We were lucky to get a murder case.
I figured us for an assault or burglary.
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Boy, they can be the dullest!
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- Hey, is that the Woolworth Building?
- That's right.
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Isn't that funny? I've lived here all my life.
I've never been inside it.
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If you had to sort out all that junk,
like that thing with the movies.
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Yeah. What about
that business with the knife?
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Asking grown-up people
to believe that kind of jazz.
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You expect that.
You know what we're dealing with.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Well, your horn works.
Now try your lights.
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- You got a cold?
- And how. Hot-weather colds can kill you.
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I can hardly touch my nose.
Know what I mean?
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Sure do. I just got over one.
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- Oh, come on! Mr Foreman, let's go.
- The guy's still in the bathroom.
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What's new? I didn't get a chance
to see a paper this morning.
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I was only wondering
how the market closed.
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- You got a seat on the exchange?
- I'm a broker.
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I run a messenger service.
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The Beck and Call Company.
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The name is my wife's idea.
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Got 37 men workin'. Started with nothin'.
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OK, men. Let's take our seats, huh?
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We can all get out of here pretty quick.
I have tickets to that ball game tonight.
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Yanks and Cleveland. We've got
this kid Modjelewski in there.
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He's a real bull, this kid. You know...
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Real jug-handled. You know?
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You're a real baseball fan, aren't ya?
Where do we sit here?
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I thought we'd sit in order,
by jury numbers.
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One, two, three and so on around the
table, if that's OK with you gentlemen.
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- What's the difference?
- It's reasonable to sit in order.
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- Let it be.
- That's twelve. We go around one, two...
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What was your impression
of the prosecuting attorney?
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- I beg pardon?
- I thought he was really sharp,
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the way he handled all those points
one by one, in logical sequence.
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- I was very impressed.
- I think he... he did an expert job.
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A lot of drive, too. You know? Real drive.
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OK, fellas. Can we
hold it down a minute? Fellas?
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Say, we'd like to get started.
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Gentleman at the window.
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- We'd like to get started.
- Oh, I'm sorry.
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- The kid kills his father, just like that.
- Listen, it happens all the time.
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They let those kids run wild up there.
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Well, maybe it serves him right.
You know what I mean?
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- Is everyone here?
- The old man is inside.
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- Would you knock on the door for him?
- Yeah.
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- Are you a Yankee fan?
- No, Baltimore.
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Baltimore?
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That's like being hit in the head
with a crowbar once a day.
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Who have they got? Who have they got
besides good groundkeepers?
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- Say, we'd like to get started.
- Forgive me, gentlemen.
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- I didn't mean to keep you waiting.
- Baltimore?
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OK, if I can have your attention. You fellas
can handle this thing any way you want.
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I'm... you know,
I'm not gonna make any rules.
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We can, well, discuss it first, then vote
on it. That's, of course... that's one way.
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And, well, we can vote on it right now.
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I think it's customary
to take a preliminary vote.
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Yeah, let's vote. Who knows?
Maybe we can all get outta here.
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OK. Then I think that you know that we
have a first-degree murder charge here,
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and if we vote the accused guilty,
we've got to send him to the chair.
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Um... That's mandatory.
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- I think we know that.
- Yeah, let's see who's where.
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- OK. Anyone doesn't wanna vote?
- It's fine with me.
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OK, then, just remember that this
has to be twelve to nothing, either way.
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That's the law. OK, are we ready?
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All those voting guilty,
please raise your hands.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...
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eight, nine, ten, eleven.
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OK, that's eleven guilty.
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Those voting not guilty?
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One. Right.
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Eleven guilty, one not guilty.
Well, now we know where we are.
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Boy, oh boy! There's always one.
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So, what do we do now?
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- I guess we talk.
- Boy, oh boy!
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You really think he's innocent?
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- I don't know.
- You sat in court with the rest of us.
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You heard what we did.
The kid's a dangerous killer.
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- He's 18 years old.
- Well, that's old enough.
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He stabbed his own father
four inches into the chest.
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They proved it
a dozen different ways in court.
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- Would you like me to list 'em for you?
- No.
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- Then what do you want?
- I just want to talk.
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What's there to talk about?
Eleven of us think he's guilty.
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No one had to think about it twice
except you.
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I want to ask you something.
Do you believe his story?
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- I don't know. Maybe I don't.
- So how come you voted not guilty?
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There were eleven votes for guilty.
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It's not easy to raise my hand and send a
boy off to die without talking about it first.
138
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- Well, now, who says it's easy?
- No one.
139
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What? Just because I voted fast?
I honestly think the guy is guilty.
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Couldn't change my mind
if you talked for 100 years.
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I'm not trying to change your mind.
It's just that...
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This is somebody's life.
We can't decide in five minutes.
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- Supposing we're wrong?
- Supposing this building fell on my head?
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- You can suppose anything.
- That's right.
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What's the difference how long it takes?
Supposin' we take five minutes? So what?
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Let's take an hour. The ball game
doesn't start till eight o'clock.
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- Who's got something to say?
- /'m willing to sit for an hour.
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- Great. I heard a good story last night...
- That's not why we're sitting here.
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All right, then you tell me.
What are we sitting here for?
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I don't know. Maybe no reason.
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Look, this kid's been
kicked around all of his life.
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You know, born in a slum,
mother dead since he was nine.
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He lived for a year and a half
in an orphanage
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when his father was serving
a jail term for forgery.
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That's not a very happy beginning.
156
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He's a wild, angry kid. That's all
he's ever been. And you know why?
157
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Cos he's been hit on the head
by somebody once a day, every day.
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He's had a pretty miserable 18 years.
I think we owe him a few words, that's all.
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I don't mind telling you this, mister. We
don't owe him a thing. He got a fair trial.
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What do you think that trial cost?
He's lucky he got it. Know what I mean?
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Look, we're all grown-ups in here.
We heard the facts, didn't we?
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You're not gonna tell me we're supposed
to believe this kid, knowing what he is.
163
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I've lived among them all my life.
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You can't believe a word they say.
You know that. I mean, they're born liars.
165
00:14:04,127 --> 00:14:07,244
- Only an ignorant man can believe that.
- Now, listen...
166
00:14:07,327 --> 00:14:10,080
Do you think you were born
with a monopoly on the truth?
167
00:14:10,167 --> 00:14:12,840
Certain things should be
pointed out to this man.
168
00:14:12,927 --> 00:14:17,796
- It's not Sunday. We don't need a sermon.
- We have a job to do. Now let's do it.
169
00:14:17,887 --> 00:14:21,516
Rice Pops. It's a product
I work on at the agency.
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"The breakfast with the built-in bounce."
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- I wrote that line.
- Very catchy.
172
00:14:26,487 --> 00:14:30,958
- Say, do you mind?
- I'm sorry. I have this habit of doodling.
173
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- It keeps me thinking clearly.
- We have work to do.
174
00:14:33,967 --> 00:14:36,925
There's no point
staying here for ever. OK.
175
00:14:37,447 --> 00:14:43,363
Perhaps if the gentleman down there who
is disagreeing with us could tell us why.
176
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Tell us what you're thinking. We might be
able to show you where you're mixed up.
177
00:14:47,407 --> 00:14:53,846
Maybe this is an idea. It seems to me that
it's up to us to convince this gentleman
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that he's wrong and we're right. Maybe if
we each took a couple of minutes just to...
179
00:14:59,407 --> 00:15:03,116
- Well, it was just a quick idea.
- No, no, no. That's a good one.
180
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Supposing we go once around the table?
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I guess you're first.
182
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It's hard to put into words.
183
00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:16,442
I just think he's guilty.
184
00:15:16,527 --> 00:15:20,156
I thought it was obvious from the word go.
Nobody proved otherwise.
185
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Nobody has to prove otherwise.
The burden of proof's on the prosecution.
186
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The defendant doesn't even have to open
his mouth. That's in the Constitution.
187
00:15:28,327 --> 00:15:32,400
Sure, I know that. What I meant was...
188
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Well... I just think he's guilty.
I mean, somebody saw him do it.
189
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OK. Here's what I think. And I have
no personal feelings about this.
190
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I just wanna talk about facts.
191
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Number one.
192
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The old man lived downstairs under
the room where the killing took place.
193
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At 10 minutes after 12 on the night
of the killing, he heard loud noises.
194
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Said it sounded like a fight.
195
00:15:57,127 --> 00:15:59,800
And he heard the kid yell out
"I'm gonna kill ya."
196
00:15:59,887 --> 00:16:02,117
A second later,
he heard a body hit the floor.
197
00:16:02,207 --> 00:16:06,439
Ran to the door, opened it up, saw the kid
run down the stairs and out of the house.
198
00:16:06,527 --> 00:16:10,281
Called the police. They found the old man
with the knife in his chest.
199
00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:13,484
The coroner fixed the time of death
around midnight.
200
00:16:13,567 --> 00:16:18,687
Now, these are facts.
You can't refute facts. The kid is guilty.
201
00:16:18,767 --> 00:16:21,918
I'm just as sentimental as the next fella.
I know he's only 18.
202
00:16:22,007 --> 00:16:26,000
- But he's still gotta pay for what he did.
- I'm with you.
203
00:16:26,087 --> 00:16:29,796
- OK. Are you finished?
- Yeah.
204
00:16:29,887 --> 00:16:33,243
It is obvious to me that
the boy's entire story was flimsy.
205
00:16:33,327 --> 00:16:35,158
He claimed he was at the movies,
206
00:16:35,247 --> 00:16:39,035
yet he couldn't remember the names
of the films he saw or who played in them.
207
00:16:39,127 --> 00:16:41,800
- That's right.
- And no one saw him at the theatre.
208
00:16:41,887 --> 00:16:46,085
And the woman across the street-if her
testimony don't prove it, nothing does.
209
00:16:46,167 --> 00:16:50,445
- That's right. She actually saw the killing.
- Fellas, please. Let's go in order.
210
00:16:50,527 --> 00:16:52,518
Just a minute. Here's a woman...
211
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Here's a woman who's lying in bed.
She can't sleep. She's dyin' with the heat.
212
00:16:58,287 --> 00:17:01,245
She looks out the window,
and right across the street
213
00:17:01,327 --> 00:17:04,797
she sees the kid stick the knife
into his father.
214
00:17:04,887 --> 00:17:07,879
The time is 12.10 on the nose.
Everything fits.
215
00:17:07,967 --> 00:17:10,162
She's known the kid all his life.
216
00:17:10,247 --> 00:17:13,956
His window is opposite hers across the
el tracks. She swore she saw him do it.
217
00:17:14,047 --> 00:17:16,515
Through the windows
of a passing el train.
218
00:17:16,607 --> 00:17:20,680
This el train had no passengers on it.
It was just being moved downtown.
219
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The lights were out,
and they proved in court that at night
220
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you can look through the windows and
see what's happening on the other side.
221
00:17:27,807 --> 00:17:30,844
- They proved it.
- I'd like to ask you something.
222
00:17:30,927 --> 00:17:33,725
You don't believe the boy.
How come you believe the woman?
223
00:17:33,807 --> 00:17:36,924
She's one of "them" too, isn't she?
224
00:17:38,007 --> 00:17:41,761
- You're a pretty smart fella, aren't ya?
- OK, gentlemen. Now, gentlemen.
225
00:17:41,847 --> 00:17:45,965
- Come on, sit down. Sit down.
- What's he so wise about? I'm telling ya...
226
00:17:46,047 --> 00:17:49,198
Come on. Now we're not gonna
get anywhere fighting.
227
00:17:49,287 --> 00:17:53,360
- Whose turn is it next?
- Oh, his. Number five.
228
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May I... Can I pass?
229
00:17:59,047 --> 00:18:01,800
Well... That's your privilege.
230
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How about the next gentleman?
231
00:18:04,127 --> 00:18:06,595
Oh. Well... I don't know.
232
00:18:06,687 --> 00:18:11,158
I started to be convinced,
you know, very early in the case.
233
00:18:11,247 --> 00:18:14,319
You see, I was looking for a motive.
234
00:18:14,407 --> 00:18:19,720
That's very important because if you don't
have a motive, where's your case, right?
235
00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:25,325
Anyway, that testimony from those people
across the hall from the kid's apartment,
236
00:18:25,407 --> 00:18:30,606
that was very powerful. Didn't they say
something about a fight, an argument,
237
00:18:30,687 --> 00:18:34,805
between the old man and his son
around about seven o'clock that night?
238
00:18:34,887 --> 00:18:38,084
- I could be wrong but...
- It was eight o'clock, not seven.
239
00:18:38,167 --> 00:18:43,719
They heard an argument. Then
they heard the father hit the boy twice.
240
00:18:43,807 --> 00:18:47,880
Finally they saw the boy run, angry,
out of the house. What does that prove?
241
00:18:47,967 --> 00:18:50,845
It don't prove anything.
It's just part of the picture.
242
00:18:50,927 --> 00:18:53,964
You said it provided a motive.
So did the prosecution.
243
00:18:54,047 --> 00:18:56,083
That wasn't a very strong motive.
244
00:18:56,167 --> 00:18:59,921
This boy has been hit so many times
that violence is practically...
245
00:19:00,007 --> 00:19:02,237
It's a normal state of affairs with him.
246
00:19:02,327 --> 00:19:06,400
I just can't see two slaps in the face
provoking him into committing murder.
247
00:19:06,487 --> 00:19:10,844
It may have been two too many.
Everyone has a breaking point.
248
00:19:12,087 --> 00:19:14,282
Anything else?
249
00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:17,598
- No.
- OK. How about you?
250
00:19:20,087 --> 00:19:23,363
I don't know. It's all been said.
251
00:19:23,447 --> 00:19:26,757
You can talk here for ever.
It's still the same thing.
252
00:19:27,127 --> 00:19:31,803
This kid is five for 0.
Well, look at his record.
253
00:19:31,887 --> 00:19:36,005
When he was 10, he was in children's
court: He threw a rock at a teacher.
254
00:19:36,087 --> 00:19:40,000
When he was 15, he was
in reform school: He stole a car.
255
00:19:40,087 --> 00:19:44,717
He's been arrested for muggin'.
He was picked up twice for knife fightin'.
256
00:19:44,807 --> 00:19:49,323
They say he's real handy with a knife.
Oh, this is a very fine boy.
257
00:19:49,407 --> 00:19:53,764
Ever since he was five, his father
beat him up regularly. He used his fists.
258
00:19:53,847 --> 00:19:56,236
So would I. A kid like that?
259
00:19:56,327 --> 00:19:59,524
It's these kids -
the way they are nowadays.
260
00:20:01,687 --> 00:20:05,236
When I was a kid,
I used to call my father "sir".
261
00:20:05,327 --> 00:20:08,364
That's right. Ever hear a kid
call his father that any more?
262
00:20:08,447 --> 00:20:11,678
Fathers don't seem to think
it's important any more.
263
00:20:11,767 --> 00:20:14,076
- You got any kids?
- Three.
264
00:20:15,087 --> 00:20:17,078
I got one.
265
00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:19,958
He's 22 years old.
266
00:20:25,407 --> 00:20:29,685
When he was nine years old,
he ran away from a fight.
267
00:20:29,767 --> 00:20:34,363
I saw it. I was so embarrassed,
I almost threw up.
268
00:20:34,447 --> 00:20:39,680
I said "I'm gonna make a man out of you
if I have to break you in two tryin'."
269
00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:43,801
Well, I made a man out of him.
270
00:20:43,887 --> 00:20:46,481
When he was 16, we had a fight.
271
00:20:47,687 --> 00:20:50,679
Hit me in the jaw. He was a big kid.
272
00:20:53,127 --> 00:20:55,960
I haven't seen him for two years.
273
00:20:58,287 --> 00:21:00,278
Kids.
274
00:21:00,687 --> 00:21:02,678
You work your heart out...
275
00:21:05,087 --> 00:21:08,477
- Well, let's get goin'.
- I think we're missing the point.
276
00:21:08,567 --> 00:21:12,082
This boy's the product of a broken home
and a filthy neighbourhood.
277
00:21:12,167 --> 00:21:15,523
We can't help that. We're here
to decide his innocence or guilt,
278
00:21:15,607 --> 00:21:18,440
not to go into the reasons
why he grew up the way he did.
279
00:21:18,527 --> 00:21:22,884
He was born in a slum.
Slums are breeding grounds for criminals.
280
00:21:22,967 --> 00:21:28,200
It's no secret that children from slums
are potential menaces to society. I think...
281
00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:32,326
You can say that again. The kids who
crawl out of these places are real trash.
282
00:21:32,407 --> 00:21:37,606
- I don't want any part of them.
- Listen, I... I've lived in a slum all my life.
283
00:21:37,687 --> 00:21:39,439
- Wait a minute.
- Please. I...
284
00:21:39,527 --> 00:21:42,360
I've played in back yards
that were filled with garbage.
285
00:21:42,447 --> 00:21:45,120
- Maybe you can still smell it on me.
- Listen, sonny...
286
00:21:45,207 --> 00:21:47,482
Come on, now. There's nothing personal.
287
00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:51,003
Come on, fella. He didn't mean you.
Let's not be so sensitive.
288
00:21:51,087 --> 00:21:53,681
This sensitivity I can understand.
289
00:21:53,767 --> 00:21:58,397
OK, look. Let's stop the arguing.
We're only wasting time.
290
00:21:58,487 --> 00:22:00,876
Your turn down there. Let's go.
291
00:22:01,927 --> 00:22:05,681
I didn't expect a turn. I thought
you were all gonna to try to convince me.
292
00:22:05,767 --> 00:22:07,883
- That was the idea.
- I forgot. He's right.
293
00:22:07,967 --> 00:22:11,164
He's the one keeping us in here.
Let's hear what he's got to say.
294
00:22:11,247 --> 00:22:14,956
Wait. We decided to do this a certain way.
I think we ought to stick to it.
295
00:22:15,047 --> 00:22:17,242
Oh, stop being a kid, will ya?
296
00:22:17,327 --> 00:22:21,798
- What do you mean, a kid?
- What do you think I mean? K-I-D: Kid.
297
00:22:24,167 --> 00:22:26,806
Just because I'm trying
to keep this organised?
298
00:22:26,887 --> 00:22:30,926
Here, you take on the responsibility.
I'll just keep my mouth shut.
299
00:22:31,007 --> 00:22:34,238
- Why are you gettin' so hot? Calm down.
- Don't tell me to calm down.
300
00:22:34,327 --> 00:22:36,602
You want to take the chair?
Take the chair.
301
00:22:36,687 --> 00:22:38,962
Did you ever see such a thing?
302
00:22:39,047 --> 00:22:42,244
- You think it's funny?
- Forget it, fella. It's unimportant.
303
00:22:42,327 --> 00:22:44,158
Unimportant? Here, you try it.
304
00:22:44,247 --> 00:22:47,239
Nobody wants to change.
You're doing a beautiful job.
305
00:22:47,327 --> 00:22:52,720
Yeah, you're doin' great. Just great, fella.
You stay in there and pitch.
306
00:22:52,807 --> 00:22:56,277
All right, let's hear from somebody.
307
00:22:56,367 --> 00:23:00,360
Well, if you want me to tell you
how I feel about it, it's all right with me.
308
00:23:00,447 --> 00:23:05,202
- Boy, I don't care what you do.
- All right. I don't have anything brilliant.
309
00:23:05,287 --> 00:23:07,357
I only know as much as you do.
310
00:23:07,447 --> 00:23:10,962
According to the testimony,
the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is.
311
00:23:11,047 --> 00:23:15,563
I sat there in court for six days
listening while the evidence built up.
312
00:23:15,647 --> 00:23:17,638
Everybody sounded so positive.
313
00:23:17,727 --> 00:23:22,437
I began to get a peculiar feeling about
this trial. I mean, nothing is that positive.
314
00:23:22,527 --> 00:23:26,759
There are questions I'd have liked to ask.
Maybe they wouldn't mean anything but...
315
00:23:26,847 --> 00:23:31,443
I felt that the defence wasn't conducting
a thorough enough cross-examination.
316
00:23:31,527 --> 00:23:34,325
He let too many things go by-little things.
317
00:23:34,407 --> 00:23:37,126
What little things?
When they don't ask questions,
318
00:23:37,207 --> 00:23:40,005
it's because they know
the answers already.
319
00:23:40,087 --> 00:23:44,797
It's also possible for a lawyer to be just
plain stupid, isn't it? I mean, it's possible.
320
00:23:44,887 --> 00:23:47,845
You sound like you met
my brother-in-law once.
321
00:23:49,767 --> 00:23:55,876
I kept putting myself in the kid's place.
I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think.
322
00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:58,276
I mean, if I was on trial for my life,
323
00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:03,157
I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecution
witnesses to shreds, or at least try to.
324
00:24:03,247 --> 00:24:07,320
Look, there was one alleged
eyewitness to this killing.
325
00:24:07,407 --> 00:24:10,797
Someone else claims he heard the killing,
saw the boy run out after,
326
00:24:10,887 --> 00:24:13,003
and there was circumstantial evidence.
327
00:24:13,087 --> 00:24:16,875
But those two witnesses
were the entire case for the prosecution.
328
00:24:16,967 --> 00:24:18,366
Supposing they're wrong?
329
00:24:18,447 --> 00:24:21,644
What do you mean? What's the point
of having witnesses at all?
330
00:24:21,727 --> 00:24:25,925
- Could they be wrong?
- Those people were under oath.
331
00:24:26,007 --> 00:24:29,841
They're only people. People
make mistakes. Could they be wrong?
332
00:24:29,927 --> 00:24:32,885
- Well, no. I don't think so.
- Do you know so?
333
00:24:32,967 --> 00:24:36,277
Nobody can know a thing like that.
This isn't an exact science.
334
00:24:36,367 --> 00:24:38,756
That's right, it isn't.
335
00:24:42,607 --> 00:24:44,996
OK, let's get to the point.
336
00:24:45,087 --> 00:24:48,079
What about the switch knife
they found in the old man's chest?
337
00:24:48,167 --> 00:24:51,239
Some people haven't talked yet.
Shouldn't we go in order?
338
00:24:51,327 --> 00:24:54,763
They'll get a chance to talk.
Be quiet a second, will ya?
339
00:24:54,847 --> 00:24:59,318
What about the knife this fine, upright boy
admitted buying the night of the killing?
340
00:24:59,407 --> 00:25:02,877
- Let's talk about it.
- All right. Let's get it in here and look at it.
341
00:25:02,967 --> 00:25:07,802
- I'd like to see it again. Mr Foreman?
- Why do we have to see it again?
342
00:25:07,887 --> 00:25:11,357
The gentleman has a right
to see exhibits in evidence.
343
00:25:12,047 --> 00:25:15,244
- Say, could you bring us the knife?
- The knife? Sure.
344
00:25:16,527 --> 00:25:19,997
The knife and the way it was bought
is strong evidence, don't you think?
345
00:25:20,087 --> 00:25:23,762
- I do.
- Good. Let's take the facts one at a time.
346
00:25:23,847 --> 00:25:27,123
One: The boy admitted leaving the house
at eight o'clock at night
347
00:25:27,207 --> 00:25:29,323
after being slapped by his father.
348
00:25:29,407 --> 00:25:34,083
No, he didn't say "slapped".
He said "punched". There's a difference.
349
00:25:34,167 --> 00:25:36,601
After being hit several times by his father.
350
00:25:36,687 --> 00:25:40,521
Two: He went directly to a local junk shop
where he bought one of those...
351
00:25:40,607 --> 00:25:42,916
- Switch knives.
- Switchblade knives.
352
00:25:43,007 --> 00:25:47,523
This wasn't an ordinary knife. It had
a very unusual carved handle and blade.
353
00:25:47,607 --> 00:25:51,964
The storekeeper said it was the only one
of its kind he had ever had in stock.
354
00:25:52,047 --> 00:25:57,075
Three: He met some friends of his in front
of a tavern about 8.45. Am I right so far?
355
00:25:57,167 --> 00:25:59,123
- Yes, you are.
- You bet he is.
356
00:25:59,207 --> 00:26:02,517
He talked with his friends
for an hour, leaving them at 9.45.
357
00:26:02,607 --> 00:26:05,280
During this time,
they saw the switch knife.
358
00:26:05,367 --> 00:26:11,966
Four: They identified the death weapon
in court as that very same knife.
359
00:26:12,047 --> 00:26:14,766
Five: He arrived home
at about ten o'clock.
360
00:26:14,847 --> 00:26:18,965
This is where the stories offered
by the State and the boy diverge slightly.
361
00:26:19,047 --> 00:26:21,436
He claims that he went to a movie
at about 11.30,
362
00:26:21,527 --> 00:26:25,645
returning home at 3.10 to find
his father dead and himself arrested.
363
00:26:25,727 --> 00:26:29,640
He also claims that the two detectives
threw him down a half a flight of stairs.
364
00:26:29,727 --> 00:26:33,436
What happened to the knife? He claims
it fell through a hole in his pocket
365
00:26:33,527 --> 00:26:37,122
on the way to the movies,
sometime between 11.30 and 3.10,
366
00:26:37,207 --> 00:26:40,722
and that he never saw it again.
Now, there is a tale, gentlemen.
367
00:26:40,807 --> 00:26:43,958
I think it's clear the boy
never went to the movies that night.
368
00:26:44,047 --> 00:26:47,676
No one in the house saw him go out.
No one at the theatre identified him.
369
00:26:47,767 --> 00:26:50,918
He couldn't even remember
the names of the pictures he saw.
370
00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:54,478
What actually happened is this.
371
00:26:54,567 --> 00:26:57,718
The boy stayed home,
had another fight with his father,
372
00:26:57,807 --> 00:27:01,163
stabbed him to death and left the house
at 10 minutes after 12.
373
00:27:01,247 --> 00:27:03,920
He even wiped the knife
clean of fingerprints.
374
00:27:04,007 --> 00:27:08,239
Are you trying to tell me that this knife
fell through a hole in the boy's pocket,
375
00:27:08,327 --> 00:27:10,602
someone picked it up,
went to the boy's house
376
00:27:10,687 --> 00:27:13,520
and stabbed his father with it
just to test its sharpness?
377
00:27:13,607 --> 00:27:15,757
No, but it's possib/e the boy lost his knife
378
00:27:15,847 --> 00:27:18,805
and somebody else stabbed his father
with a similar knife.
379
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,276
Take a look at this knife.
380
00:27:22,247 --> 00:27:24,363
It's a very unusual knife.
381
00:27:24,447 --> 00:27:28,520
I've never seen one like it. Neither had
the storekeeper who sold it to the boy.
382
00:27:28,607 --> 00:27:31,724
Aren't you asking us to accept
an incredible coincidence?
383
00:27:31,807 --> 00:27:36,403
- I'm just saying a coincidence is possible.
- And I say it's not possible.
384
00:27:41,967 --> 00:27:43,844
Where did that come from?
385
00:27:43,927 --> 00:27:46,600
- It's the same knife!
- What do you think you're doin'?
386
00:27:46,687 --> 00:27:50,236
- Where did you get it?
- I went out walking last night.
387
00:27:50,327 --> 00:27:52,318
Through the boy's neighbourhood.
388
00:27:52,407 --> 00:27:57,481
I bought that at a pawn shop two blocks
from the boy's house. It cost six dollars.
389
00:27:57,567 --> 00:28:00,206
It's against the law
to buy or sell switchblade knives.
390
00:28:00,287 --> 00:28:03,359
- That's right. I broke the law.
- You pulled a real bright trick.
391
00:28:03,447 --> 00:28:05,836
Now supposing you tell me what it proves.
392
00:28:05,927 --> 00:28:09,044
- Maybe there are ten knives like that.
- Maybe there are!
393
00:28:09,127 --> 00:28:13,917
What does it mean? You found a knife like
it. What's that? The discovery of the age?
394
00:28:14,007 --> 00:28:18,046
You think somebody else did the stabbing
with exactly the same kind of knife?
395
00:28:18,127 --> 00:28:21,005
- The odds are a million to one.
- It's possible!
396
00:28:21,087 --> 00:28:25,080
- But not very probable.
- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
397
00:28:25,167 --> 00:28:28,557
There's no point standing around
all over the place.
398
00:28:28,647 --> 00:28:32,196
It's interesting that he'd find a knife
exactly like the boy's.
399
00:28:32,287 --> 00:28:36,678
- What's interesting about it? Interesting!
- I just thought it was interesting.
400
00:28:36,767 --> 00:28:38,997
Eleven of us still think he's guilty.
401
00:28:39,087 --> 00:28:42,762
Right. You're not gonna
change anybody's mind.
402
00:28:42,847 --> 00:28:45,042
If you wanna hang this jury, go ahead.
403
00:28:45,127 --> 00:28:49,120
The kid'll be tried again
and found guilty, as sure as he's born.
404
00:28:49,447 --> 00:28:51,483
You're probably right.
405
00:28:51,567 --> 00:28:54,286
So, what are you gonna do?
We can be here all night.
406
00:28:54,367 --> 00:28:57,518
It's only one night. A boy may die.
407
00:28:57,607 --> 00:29:00,246
Well, why don't we just
set up house here?
408
00:29:00,327 --> 00:29:02,557
Someone send for a pinochle deck
409
00:29:02,647 --> 00:29:06,162
and we'll just sweat
the whole thing out right here.
410
00:29:06,247 --> 00:29:09,922
- I don't think he oughta joke about it.
- What do you want me to do about it?
411
00:29:10,007 --> 00:29:12,999
I don't see what the knife
has got to do with anything.
412
00:29:13,087 --> 00:29:15,885
Somebody saw the kid stab his father.
What more do we need?
413
00:29:15,967 --> 00:29:18,686
You guys can talk the ears
right off my head.
414
00:29:18,767 --> 00:29:23,124
I got three garages going to pot.
So let's get done and get outta here.
415
00:29:23,207 --> 00:29:26,643
The knife was important to the
district attorney. He spent a day...
416
00:29:26,727 --> 00:29:29,446
He's a 15th assistant or something.
What does he know?
417
00:29:29,527 --> 00:29:33,645
Let's hold it down. These side arguments
are only slowin' us up.
418
00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:38,638
- Well, what about it?
- You're the only one.
419
00:29:45,727 --> 00:29:51,643
I have a proposition to make to all of you.
I'm going to call for another vote.
420
00:29:51,727 --> 00:29:54,400
I want you eleven men to...
421
00:29:54,487 --> 00:29:56,796
vote by secret written ballot.
422
00:29:57,247 --> 00:30:01,684
I'll abstain. If there are eleven votes
for guilty, I won't stand alone.
423
00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:06,477
We'll take in a guilty verdict
to the judge right now.
424
00:30:06,567 --> 00:30:11,561
But if anyone votes not guilty,
we'll stay here and talk it out.
425
00:30:13,367 --> 00:30:17,997
- That's it. If you want to try it, I'm ready.
- All right. Let's do it the hard way.
426
00:30:18,087 --> 00:30:21,762
That sounds fair. Everyone agreed?
Anyone doesn't agree?
427
00:30:21,847 --> 00:30:23,838
OK, pass these along.
428
00:30:55,327 --> 00:30:57,318
Guilty.
429
00:30:59,047 --> 00:31:00,639
Guilty.
430
00:31:02,327 --> 00:31:03,919
Guilty.
431
00:31:05,487 --> 00:31:07,079
Guilty.
432
00:31:08,247 --> 00:31:09,839
Guilty.
433
00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:12,759
Guilty.
434
00:31:14,327 --> 00:31:15,919
Guilty.
435
00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:17,999
Guilty.
436
00:31:18,967 --> 00:31:20,559
Guilty.
437
00:31:24,487 --> 00:31:26,398
Not guilty.
438
00:31:26,487 --> 00:31:27,966
Guilty.
439
00:31:28,047 --> 00:31:32,040
- Boy, how do you like that?
- And another chap flips his wings!
440
00:31:32,127 --> 00:31:34,846
All right. Who was it?
Come on, I wanna know.
441
00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:38,442
Excuse me. This was a secret ballot.
We all agreed on that, no?
442
00:31:38,527 --> 00:31:40,882
If the gentleman
wants it to remain secret...
443
00:31:40,967 --> 00:31:46,325
Secret? What do you mean? There are no
secrets in a jury room. I know who it was.
444
00:31:46,407 --> 00:31:50,480
Brother, you really are somethin'.
You vote guilty like the rest of us,
445
00:31:50,567 --> 00:31:53,639
then some golden-voiced preacher
tears your heart out -
446
00:31:53,727 --> 00:31:56,878
some underprivileged kid
couldn't help becoming a murderer -
447
00:31:56,967 --> 00:32:00,562
and you change your vote.
If that isn't the most sickening...
448
00:32:00,647 --> 00:32:03,957
Why don't you drop a quarter
in his collection box?
449
00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:08,518
Oh, now just wait a... Listen, you can't talk
to me like that. Who do you think you are?
450
00:32:08,607 --> 00:32:11,280
Calm down, calm down. It doesn't matter.
451
00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:14,837
- He's very excitable. Sit down.
- Excitable? You bet I'm excitable!
452
00:32:14,927 --> 00:32:18,124
We're tryin' to put a guilty man
in the chair, where he belongs.
453
00:32:18,207 --> 00:32:21,756
Someone starts tellin' us
fairy tales and we're listenin'!
454
00:32:22,407 --> 00:32:27,117
- What made you change your vote?
- He didn't change his vote. I did.
455
00:32:27,207 --> 00:32:29,118
- Oh, fine.
- I knew it.
456
00:32:29,207 --> 00:32:32,916
- Would you like me to tell you why?
- No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why.
457
00:32:33,007 --> 00:32:36,920
- I'd like to anyway, if you don't mind.
- Do we have to listen to this?
458
00:32:37,007 --> 00:32:40,363
- The man wants to talk.
- Thank you.
459
00:32:40,447 --> 00:32:43,678
This gentleman has been
standing alone against us.
460
00:32:43,767 --> 00:32:45,917
He doesn't say the boy is not guilty.
461
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:50,717
He just isn't sure. It's not easy to stand
alone against the ridicule of others.
462
00:32:50,807 --> 00:32:55,358
So he gambled for support and I gave it
to him. I respect his motives.
463
00:32:55,447 --> 00:32:59,918
The boy on trial is probably guilty,
but... I want to hear more.
464
00:33:00,007 --> 00:33:03,522
The vote is ten to two. I'm talking!
You have no right to leave this room!
465
00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:06,758
He can't hear you. He never will.
Let's sit down.
466
00:33:11,727 --> 00:33:15,606
- Shall we continue?
- Well, I think we ought to take a break.
467
00:33:15,687 --> 00:33:20,124
You know, one man's inside and
I think we ought to wait for him.
468
00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:25,486
Looks like we're really
hung up here, huh?
469
00:33:25,567 --> 00:33:29,879
I mean, that thing with the old man,
that was pretty unexpected.
470
00:33:29,967 --> 00:33:33,437
Wish I could figure out some way
we could break it up.
471
00:33:35,207 --> 00:33:39,598
You know, in advertising...
I told you I worked in an agency?
472
00:33:39,687 --> 00:33:43,362
Some pretty strange people work there.
Well, not strange, really.
473
00:33:43,447 --> 00:33:47,565
I guess it's just they have peculiar ways
of expressing themselves.
474
00:33:47,647 --> 00:33:50,525
I suppose it's the same
in your business too, huh?
475
00:33:50,607 --> 00:33:53,041
- What do you do?
- I'm a watchmaker.
476
00:33:53,127 --> 00:33:57,086
Really? I imagine the finest watchmakers
in the world come from Europe.
477
00:33:57,167 --> 00:34:00,045
Anyway, in an agency,
when we reach a point like this...
478
00:34:00,127 --> 00:34:03,802
I'm telling him, in an ad agency when
a point like this is reached in a meeting,
479
00:34:03,887 --> 00:34:06,879
there's always some character
ready with an idea, see.
480
00:34:06,967 --> 00:34:09,276
It kills me. It's the weirdest thing,
481
00:34:09,367 --> 00:34:12,279
the way they sometimes precede
their idea with a phrase.
482
00:34:12,367 --> 00:34:15,916
Like, some account exec
will get up and he'll say:
483
00:34:16,007 --> 00:34:22,082
"OK, here's an idea. Let's... run it up
the flagpole and see if anyone salutes it."
484
00:34:22,167 --> 00:34:24,601
I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny.
485
00:34:24,687 --> 00:34:28,157
I... got a little excited back there.
486
00:34:28,247 --> 00:34:31,080
I... didn't mean to get nasty.
487
00:34:32,367 --> 00:34:37,487
Glad you're not one of those who lets
these emotional appeals influence him.
488
00:34:51,967 --> 00:34:54,561
I don't know what's the matter
with that fan.
489
00:35:03,927 --> 00:35:07,044
- Are you a salesman?
- I'm an architect.
490
00:35:09,647 --> 00:35:12,366
You know what the soft sell is?
491
00:35:14,647 --> 00:35:17,559
Well, you've got it, believe me.
492
00:35:18,047 --> 00:35:20,481
I've got a different technique.
493
00:35:20,567 --> 00:35:24,355
Laughs, drinks, jokes, tricks. You know?
494
00:35:25,327 --> 00:35:27,318
Yeah.
495
00:35:27,927 --> 00:35:31,203
Hit 'em where they live-that's my motto.
496
00:35:31,287 --> 00:35:34,836
I made 27 grand last year
sellin' marmalade.
497
00:35:34,927 --> 00:35:38,363
That's not bad. I mean, you know,
considerin' marmalade.
498
00:35:40,407 --> 00:35:43,001
What are you gettin' out of this? Kicks?
499
00:35:43,727 --> 00:35:47,276
Or did somebody bump you on the head
once and you haven't gotten over it?
500
00:35:47,367 --> 00:35:51,519
- Maybe.
- You know, you do-gooders are all alike.
501
00:35:51,607 --> 00:35:56,044
You're always blowin' your stacks
over some guy that fanned.
502
00:35:57,207 --> 00:35:59,801
But what are you wastin' our time for?
503
00:35:59,887 --> 00:36:05,166
Why don't you donate five dollars to the
cause? Maybe it'll make you feel better.
504
00:36:06,767 --> 00:36:08,837
This kid is guilty, pal.
505
00:36:08,927 --> 00:36:13,523
It's as plain as the nose on your face. So
why don't we stop wastin' our time here?
506
00:36:13,607 --> 00:36:16,360
We're gonna all get sore throats
if we keep it up.
507
00:36:16,447 --> 00:36:20,122
What difference does it make
if you get it here or at the ball game?
508
00:36:20,207 --> 00:36:22,516
No difference, pal.
509
00:36:22,607 --> 00:36:24,598
No difference at all.
510
00:36:35,807 --> 00:36:40,562
- Nice bunch of guys, huh?
- They're about the same as anyone else.
511
00:36:40,647 --> 00:36:43,036
Boy, what a murderous day.
512
00:36:43,447 --> 00:36:47,042
- Do you think we'll be much longer?
- I don't know.
513
00:36:47,127 --> 00:36:50,676
He's guilty for sure.
Not a doubt in the whole world.
514
00:36:50,767 --> 00:36:54,362
We should've...
We should've been done already.
515
00:36:55,247 --> 00:36:57,556
Oh, I don't mind, you know.
516
00:36:57,647 --> 00:36:59,638
Beats workin'.
517
00:37:05,727 --> 00:37:10,039
- You think he's not guilty, huh?
- I don't know. It's possible.
518
00:37:10,127 --> 00:37:14,006
Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you've never been wronger in your life.
519
00:37:14,087 --> 00:37:16,396
You're wastin' your time.
You ought to wrap it up.
520
00:37:16,487 --> 00:37:19,240
Supposing you were the one
who was on trial?
521
00:37:19,327 --> 00:37:22,444
Well, I'm not used to supposin'.
I'm just a workin' man.
522
00:37:22,527 --> 00:37:25,360
My boss does the supposin'. But...
523
00:37:25,447 --> 00:37:27,438
I'll try one.
524
00:37:28,207 --> 00:37:31,517
Supposin' you talk us all out of this and...
525
00:37:31,607 --> 00:37:35,282
the kid really did knife his father, huh?
526
00:37:42,247 --> 00:37:44,203
Are you ready?
527
00:37:45,607 --> 00:37:47,598
Sorry, blue eyes.
528
00:37:48,287 --> 00:37:51,279
- Well, where else?
- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
529
00:37:51,367 --> 00:37:55,838
- Looks like we'll be here for dinner.
- OK, now let's get down to business.
530
00:37:55,927 --> 00:37:57,679
- Who wants to start?
- I will.
531
00:37:57,767 --> 00:38:00,520
- OK, go.
- You, down there.
532
00:38:00,607 --> 00:38:04,486
The old man who lived downstairs says
he heard the kid yell "I'm gonna kill ya."
533
00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:06,956
A second later,
he heard the body hit the floor.
534
00:38:07,047 --> 00:38:11,962
He ran to the door and saw the kid run out
of the house. What's that mean to you?
535
00:38:12,047 --> 00:38:15,483
I wonder how clearly he heard
the boy's voice through the ceiling.
536
00:38:15,567 --> 00:38:19,480
He didn't. The window was open. So was
the one upstairs. It was a hot night.
537
00:38:19,567 --> 00:38:23,003
It was another apartment.
It's not easy to identify a shouting voice.
538
00:38:23,087 --> 00:38:24,839
He identified it in court.
539
00:38:24,927 --> 00:38:29,205
The lady across the street looked right in
the open window and saw the stabbing.
540
00:38:29,287 --> 00:38:31,676
- Isn't that enough for you?
- No, it isn't.
541
00:38:31,767 --> 00:38:35,362
Boy, how do you like this guy?
It's like talkin' into a dead phone.
542
00:38:35,447 --> 00:38:38,405
She said she saw it through
the windows of a moving el train.
543
00:38:38,487 --> 00:38:41,877
There were six cars on the train.
She saw it through the last two.
544
00:38:41,967 --> 00:38:45,801
She remembered insignificant details.
How can you argue with that?
545
00:38:45,887 --> 00:38:51,007
Has anybody here any idea
how long it would take an el...
546
00:39:00,127 --> 00:39:02,516
This isn't a game.
547
00:39:05,567 --> 00:39:07,797
Did you see him?
548
00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:11,038
The nerve! The absolute nerve!
549
00:39:11,127 --> 00:39:14,802
- Forget it. It's not important.
- This isn't a game?
550
00:39:14,887 --> 00:39:18,163
- Who does he think he is?
- Forget it now.
551
00:39:18,247 --> 00:39:23,321
Any idea how long it takes an el train
at medium speed to pass a given point?
552
00:39:23,407 --> 00:39:25,204
- What has that to do with it?
- Guess.
553
00:39:25,287 --> 00:39:27,562
- I wouldn't have any idea.
- What do you think?
554
00:39:27,647 --> 00:39:32,163
- I don't know. Ten, twelve seconds?
- A pretty good guess. Anyone else?
555
00:39:32,247 --> 00:39:34,807
- Sounds right to me.
- What's the guessing game for?
556
00:39:34,887 --> 00:39:36,684
- What do you say?
- Ten seconds.
557
00:39:36,767 --> 00:39:39,918
- All right. What are you getting at?
- This.
558
00:39:40,007 --> 00:39:43,522
It takes a six-car el train
ten seconds to pass a given point.
559
00:39:43,607 --> 00:39:47,885
Say the given point is the open window
of the room where the killing took place.
560
00:39:47,967 --> 00:39:50,845
You can reach out
and almost touch the el tracks, right?
561
00:39:50,927 --> 00:39:54,636
Now let me ask you this. Has anyone
here ever lived near the el tracks?
562
00:39:54,727 --> 00:39:59,323
I just finished painting an apartment that
overlooked an el line. It took three days.
563
00:39:59,407 --> 00:40:03,605
- What was it like? Noisy?
- Oh, brother! No matter. We were punchy.
564
00:40:03,687 --> 00:40:06,281
I lived in an apartment
near the el line once.
565
00:40:06,367 --> 00:40:09,359
When the window's open,
the train noise is almost unbearable.
566
00:40:09,447 --> 00:40:12,996
- You can hardly hear yourself think.
- Will you get to the point?
567
00:40:13,087 --> 00:40:17,956
I will. Now, let's take two pieces of
testimony and try to put them together.
568
00:40:18,047 --> 00:40:22,086
First: The old man
in the apartment downstairs.
569
00:40:22,167 --> 00:40:24,601
He says he heard the boy say
"I'm gonna kill you",
570
00:40:24,687 --> 00:40:27,247
and a split second later
heard a body hit the floor.
571
00:40:27,327 --> 00:40:28,999
- One second later.
- Right.
572
00:40:29,087 --> 00:40:31,681
Second: The woman across the street
573
00:40:31,767 --> 00:40:35,646
swore positively she looked
out of the window and saw the killing
574
00:40:35,727 --> 00:40:39,003
through the last two cars
of a passing el train-the last two cars.
575
00:40:39,087 --> 00:40:41,726
- What are you givin' us here?
- Now, just a minute.
576
00:40:41,807 --> 00:40:46,756
We've agreed that it takes ten seconds
for a train to pass a given point.
577
00:40:46,847 --> 00:40:49,919
Since the woman saw the killing
through the last two cars,
578
00:40:50,007 --> 00:40:55,206
we can assume that the body hit
the floor just as the train went by.
579
00:40:55,287 --> 00:40:59,405
Therefore, the train had been
roaring by the old man's window
580
00:40:59,487 --> 00:41:02,763
a full ten seconds
before the body hit the floor.
581
00:41:02,847 --> 00:41:07,841
The old man - "I'm gonna kill you",
body hitting the floor a second later -
582
00:41:07,927 --> 00:41:11,920
would have had to hear the boy's words
with the el roaring past his nose!
583
00:41:12,007 --> 00:41:14,805
- It's not possible he heard it.
- Of course he heard it.
584
00:41:14,887 --> 00:41:18,084
- Do you think so?
- He said he yelled at the top of his voice.
585
00:41:18,167 --> 00:41:21,284
He couldn't have identified the voice
with the el roaring by.
586
00:41:21,367 --> 00:41:24,086
It was a matter of seconds!
Nobody can be that accurate.
587
00:41:24,167 --> 00:41:29,161
Testimony that could put a boy into the
electric chair shou/d be that accurate.
588
00:41:30,647 --> 00:41:34,879
- I don't think he could have heard it.
- Maybe he didn't, with all that el noise.
589
00:41:34,967 --> 00:41:38,721
- What are you people talkin' about?
- It stands to reason he couldn't have.
590
00:41:38,807 --> 00:41:42,720
- Why lie? What's he got to gain?
- Attention, maybe.
591
00:41:42,807 --> 00:41:47,801
You keep comin' in with bright sayings.
Send 'em to a paper! They pay $3 apiece!
592
00:41:47,887 --> 00:41:50,560
What are you talkin' to him like that for?
593
00:41:50,647 --> 00:41:54,037
A guy who talks like that to an old man
really oughta get stepped on.
594
00:41:54,127 --> 00:41:57,039
You oughta have more respect, mister.
595
00:41:57,127 --> 00:42:01,996
You say stuff like that to him again...
I'm gonna lay you out.
596
00:42:11,047 --> 00:42:13,800
You go ahead. You say anything you like.
597
00:42:14,847 --> 00:42:17,839
Why do you think the old man might lie?
598
00:42:17,927 --> 00:42:21,806
It was just that I looked at him
for a very long time.
599
00:42:21,887 --> 00:42:25,004
The seam of his jacket was split,
under the shoulder.
600
00:42:25,087 --> 00:42:29,285
Did you notice that?
I mean, to come into court like that.
601
00:42:31,687 --> 00:42:34,918
He was a very old man in a torn jacket.
602
00:42:35,407 --> 00:42:38,763
And he walked very slowly to the stand.
603
00:42:38,847 --> 00:42:42,965
He was dragging his left leg
and trying to hide it,
604
00:42:43,047 --> 00:42:45,481
because he was ashamed.
605
00:42:45,567 --> 00:42:49,606
I think I know this man
better than anyone here.
606
00:42:49,687 --> 00:42:52,406
This is a quiet, frightened,
607
00:42:52,487 --> 00:42:54,842
insignificant old man who...
608
00:42:54,927 --> 00:42:57,566
who has been nothing all his life.
609
00:42:57,647 --> 00:43:02,357
Who has never had recognition
or his name in the newspapers.
610
00:43:02,447 --> 00:43:06,486
Nobody knows him. Nobody quotes him.
611
00:43:06,567 --> 00:43:10,162
Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
612
00:43:11,087 --> 00:43:15,524
Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing -
to mean nothing.
613
00:43:15,607 --> 00:43:20,237
A man like this needs to be quoted,
to be listened to.
614
00:43:20,367 --> 00:43:24,280
To be quoted just once -
very important to him.
615
00:43:24,367 --> 00:43:27,279
It would be so hard for him
to recede into the background.
616
00:43:27,367 --> 00:43:31,280
Wait a minute. Are you tellin' us he'd lie
just so he could be important once?
617
00:43:31,367 --> 00:43:34,086
No. He wouldn't really lie.
618
00:43:34,167 --> 00:43:37,398
But perhaps he made himself believe
he heard those words
619
00:43:37,487 --> 00:43:39,717
and recognised the boy's face.
620
00:43:39,807 --> 00:43:42,116
That's the most fantastic story ever.
621
00:43:42,207 --> 00:43:45,961
How can you make up a thing like that?
What do you know about it?
622
00:43:54,407 --> 00:43:57,763
- Does anybody want a cough drop?
- I'll take one.
623
00:43:57,847 --> 00:44:01,283
I still don't see how anybody
can think he's not guilty.
624
00:44:01,367 --> 00:44:05,360
There's something else I'd like
to talk about for a minute. Thanks.
625
00:44:05,447 --> 00:44:09,326
We've proved the old man couldn't have
heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you."
626
00:44:09,407 --> 00:44:13,161
- You didn't prove it at all!
- Wait. Supposing he really did hear it?
627
00:44:13,247 --> 00:44:16,956
This phrase, how many times have
all of us used it? Probably thousands.
628
00:44:17,047 --> 00:44:21,837
"I could kill you for that." "Junior, do that
again and I'll kill you." "Rocky, kill him."
629
00:44:21,927 --> 00:44:26,921
- It doesn't mean we'd really kill anybody.
- The phrase was: "I'm gonna kill you."
630
00:44:27,007 --> 00:44:29,202
The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs.
631
00:44:29,287 --> 00:44:32,757
Don't tell me he didn't mean it.
Anybody says it like that, they mean it!
632
00:44:32,847 --> 00:44:34,678
Gee, I don't know.
633
00:44:34,767 --> 00:44:38,362
I was arguing with the guy I work next to
at the bank a few weeks ago.
634
00:44:38,447 --> 00:44:40,802
He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.
635
00:44:40,887 --> 00:44:43,560
This guy is trying to make you
believe what isn't so!
636
00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:45,638
The kid said he'd kill him and he did!
637
00:44:45,727 --> 00:44:50,198
Do you really think the boy'd shout it out
so the whole neighbourhood could hear?
638
00:44:50,287 --> 00:44:54,997
- He's much too bright for that.
- Bright? He's a common, ignorant slob.
639
00:44:55,087 --> 00:44:57,078
He don't even speak good English.
640
00:44:57,167 --> 00:45:00,477
He doesn't even speak good English.
641
00:45:01,927 --> 00:45:05,636
Mr Foreman, I'd like to
change my vote to not guilty.
642
00:45:06,247 --> 00:45:08,283
- You what?
- You heard me.
643
00:45:08,367 --> 00:45:11,677
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, I'm sure.
644
00:45:11,767 --> 00:45:14,327
The vote is nine to three
in favour of guilty.
645
00:45:14,407 --> 00:45:16,796
Well, if this isn't the livin' end!
646
00:45:20,767 --> 00:45:24,203
What are you basin' it on?
Stories this guy made up?
647
00:45:24,287 --> 00:45:28,200
You oughta write for one of those kooky
detective magazines, make a fortune.
648
00:45:28,287 --> 00:45:31,802
For cryin' out loud, the kid's own lawyer
knew he didn't stand a chance.
649
00:45:31,887 --> 00:45:35,277
Right from the beginning, his own
lawyer knew, and you could see it.
650
00:45:35,367 --> 00:45:39,406
Boy, oh boy, I'm telling ya.
This guy here is really somethin'.
651
00:45:39,487 --> 00:45:42,718
The kid had a lawyer, didn't he?
He presented his case, not you.
652
00:45:42,807 --> 00:45:45,560
- How come you say so much?
- Lawyers aren't infallible.
653
00:45:45,647 --> 00:45:48,559
- Baltimore, please.
- He was court-appointed.
654
00:45:48,647 --> 00:45:50,763
- What's that supposed to mean?
- A lot.
655
00:45:50,847 --> 00:45:53,964
He didn't want the case
or he resented being appointed.
656
00:45:54,047 --> 00:45:58,325
It's the kind of case that brings no money,
no glory, not much chance of winning.
657
00:45:58,407 --> 00:46:01,399
That's not a very promising
situation for a young lawyer.
658
00:46:01,487 --> 00:46:06,197
He'd really have to believe in his client to
put up a good case. Obviously he didn't.
659
00:46:06,287 --> 00:46:08,278
Of course he didn't.
660
00:46:09,127 --> 00:46:11,357
Who the heck could?
661
00:46:11,447 --> 00:46:14,280
Except maybe some guy's mother
or somebody.
662
00:46:14,367 --> 00:46:17,165
Oh, look.
Will you look at the time? Come on.
663
00:46:17,247 --> 00:46:20,637
Pardon me. I have made some notes here,
664
00:46:20,727 --> 00:46:24,003
and I would like, please,
to say something.
665
00:46:24,087 --> 00:46:26,760
I have been listening very carefully and...
666
00:46:26,847 --> 00:46:30,556
it seems to me that this man
has some very good points to make.
667
00:46:30,647 --> 00:46:35,118
From what was presented at the trial,
the boy looks guilty, on the surface.
668
00:46:35,207 --> 00:46:38,882
- But maybe if we go deeper...
- Come on, will ya?
669
00:46:38,967 --> 00:46:41,117
There is a question I would like to ask.
670
00:46:41,207 --> 00:46:44,517
Let us assume that the boy
really did commit the murder.
671
00:46:44,607 --> 00:46:47,838
Now, this happened
at 10 minutes after 12.
672
00:46:47,927 --> 00:46:50,361
Now, how was he caught by the police?
673
00:46:50,447 --> 00:46:54,406
He came back home...
at three o'clock or so,
674
00:46:54,487 --> 00:46:58,116
and he was captured by two detectives
in the hallway of his house.
675
00:46:58,207 --> 00:47:02,644
Now, my question is:
If he really had killed his father,
676
00:47:02,727 --> 00:47:06,037
why would he come back home
three hours later?
677
00:47:06,127 --> 00:47:08,880
Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught?
678
00:47:08,967 --> 00:47:12,880
He came home for his knife. It's not nice
to leave knives in people's chests.
679
00:47:12,967 --> 00:47:15,686
Yeah, especially relatives'.
680
00:47:15,767 --> 00:47:18,281
I don't see anything funny about it.
681
00:47:18,367 --> 00:47:21,439
The boy knew the knife
could be identified.
682
00:47:21,527 --> 00:47:25,839
- He had to get it before the police did.
- If he knew the knife could be identified,
683
00:47:25,927 --> 00:47:28,441
why did he leave it there in the first place?
684
00:47:28,527 --> 00:47:33,760
I think we can assume the boy ran out in a
state of panic, having just killed his father.
685
00:47:33,847 --> 00:47:36,725
He calmed down and realised
he'd left his knife there.
686
00:47:36,807 --> 00:47:39,605
This, then, depends
on your definition of panic.
687
00:47:39,687 --> 00:47:44,442
He would have had to be calm enough to
wipe off any fingerprints left on the knife.
688
00:47:44,527 --> 00:47:48,236
Now, where did this panic start
and where did it end?
689
00:47:48,327 --> 00:47:51,000
You voted guilty. What side are you on?
690
00:47:51,087 --> 00:47:54,124
I don't believe I have to be loyal
to one side or the other.
691
00:47:54,207 --> 00:47:59,235
- I'm simply asking questions.
- This is just off the top of my head but...
692
00:47:59,327 --> 00:48:03,366
If /'d done the stabbing, I'd take a chance
and go back for the knife.
693
00:48:03,447 --> 00:48:05,915
I'll bet he figured
nobody'd seen him running out
694
00:48:06,007 --> 00:48:08,680
and the body wouldn't be discovered
till the next day.
695
00:48:08,767 --> 00:48:12,806
After all, it was the middle of the night.
He figured it'd be found the next day.
696
00:48:12,887 --> 00:48:14,843
Pardon. This is my whole point.
697
00:48:14,927 --> 00:48:18,761
The woman across the street testified
that the moment after she saw the killing,
698
00:48:18,847 --> 00:48:20,997
that is, a moment after the train went by,
699
00:48:21,087 --> 00:48:24,124
she screamed, and then went
to telephone the police.
700
00:48:24,207 --> 00:48:27,597
Now, the boy certainly
must have heard the scream.
701
00:48:27,687 --> 00:48:30,804
So he knew that
somebody saw something.
702
00:48:30,887 --> 00:48:33,640
I just don't think
that he would have gone back.
703
00:48:33,727 --> 00:48:38,164
Two things. One: He may not have heard
the scream. Perhaps it wasn't very loud.
704
00:48:38,247 --> 00:48:41,444
Two: If he did, he may not
have connected it with his own acts.
705
00:48:41,527 --> 00:48:44,439
He lived in a neighbourhood
where screams were commonplace.
706
00:48:44,527 --> 00:48:48,725
- There's your answer.
- Maybe. Maybe the boy did kill his father.
707
00:48:48,807 --> 00:48:51,116
Didn't hear the scream,
did run out in a panic,
708
00:48:51,207 --> 00:48:55,883
calmed down later and came back for the
knife, risking being caught by the police.
709
00:48:55,967 --> 00:48:58,800
Maybe those things happened,
but maybe they didn't.
710
00:48:58,887 --> 00:49:02,960
There's enough doubt to wonder if he was
there at all at the time of the killing.
711
00:49:03,047 --> 00:49:06,357
What do you mean? Didn't the old man
see him running out of the house?
712
00:49:06,447 --> 00:49:08,199
He's twisting the facts.
713
00:49:08,287 --> 00:49:11,723
Did or didn't the old man see the kid
running out of the house at 12.10?
714
00:49:11,807 --> 00:49:14,367
- Well, did or didn't he?
- He says he did.
715
00:49:14,447 --> 00:49:16,802
Says he did? Boy, how do you like that?
716
00:49:16,887 --> 00:49:19,879
- Witnesses can make mistakes.
- Sure, when you want them to!
717
00:49:19,967 --> 00:49:22,561
- Or when he wants them to!
- Keep the yelling down.
718
00:49:22,647 --> 00:49:27,277
Maybe we need a little yelling. These
guys keep going off every which way.
719
00:49:27,367 --> 00:49:30,518
Did hear the scream, didn't hear it -
what difference does it make?
720
00:49:30,607 --> 00:49:34,316
You're talking about little details
and forgetting the important stuff.
721
00:49:34,407 --> 00:49:36,967
- I call for another vote.
- I'm talking here!
722
00:49:37,047 --> 00:49:39,038
Another vote called for.
723
00:49:39,127 --> 00:49:41,516
Now let's take our seats.
724
00:49:44,487 --> 00:49:46,842
I never saw so much time
spent on nothin'.
725
00:49:46,927 --> 00:49:49,122
It only takes a second.
726
00:49:49,767 --> 00:49:53,043
OK, I guess the fastest way is
to find out who's voting not guilty.
727
00:49:53,127 --> 00:49:56,756
All those voting not guilty,
please raise your hands.
728
00:49:56,847 --> 00:50:00,317
Still the same. One, two, three
not guilty. Nine guilty.
729
00:50:00,407 --> 00:50:05,162
So now where are we? We can yakety-yak
till next Tuesday. Where's it getting us?
730
00:50:05,247 --> 00:50:08,159
Pardon. I vote not guilty.
731
00:50:10,127 --> 00:50:14,325
What are you talkin' about? I mean,
we're all goin' crazy in here or somethin'.
732
00:50:14,407 --> 00:50:17,683
The kid is guilty.
Why don't you listen to the facts?
733
00:50:17,767 --> 00:50:20,235
Tell them, will ya?
This is gettin' to be a joke.
734
00:50:20,327 --> 00:50:23,558
The vote is eight to four in favour of guilty.
735
00:50:23,647 --> 00:50:27,242
What is this?
Love Your Underprivileged Brother Week?
736
00:50:27,327 --> 00:50:30,842
I want you to tell me why
you changed your vote. Give me reasons.
737
00:50:30,927 --> 00:50:35,318
I don't have to defend my decision to you.
There is a reasonable doubt in my mind.
738
00:50:35,407 --> 00:50:38,240
Reasonable doubt?
Nothing but words. Look at this.
739
00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:43,117
The kid you just decided isn't guilty
was seen ramming this into his father!
740
00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:47,883
- What about this, Mr Reasonable Doubt?
- That's not the knife, remember?
741
00:50:47,967 --> 00:50:52,358
- Oh, brilliant!
- I'm tellin' you, this is the craziest.
742
00:50:52,447 --> 00:50:57,202
I mean, what are we supposed to believe?
You're pullin' stories out of thin air.
743
00:50:57,287 --> 00:51:00,962
A guy like this, if he's sittin' ringside
at the Dempsey-Firpo fight,
744
00:51:01,047 --> 00:51:02,799
he'd be trying to tell you that...
745
00:51:03,327 --> 00:51:05,522
Look. Now what about the old man?
746
00:51:05,607 --> 00:51:09,156
Are we supposed to believe he didn't
see the kid tearin' down the steps
747
00:51:09,247 --> 00:51:11,124
15 seconds after the killing?
748
00:51:11,247 --> 00:51:13,761
He's just sayin' so to be important, right?
749
00:51:13,847 --> 00:51:15,883
- What's the point of it all?
- Hold it.
750
00:51:15,967 --> 00:51:18,162
The Baltimore rooter is heard from again.
751
00:51:18,247 --> 00:51:21,637
- And pop-ups are fallin' for base hits.
- Hold on a second. Look.
752
00:51:21,727 --> 00:51:25,117
- Did the old man say he ran to the door?
- What's the difference?
753
00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:29,120
- He got there, didn't he?
- He said he ran. At least I think he did.
754
00:51:29,207 --> 00:51:32,279
I don't remember, but I don't see
how he could have run.
755
00:51:32,367 --> 00:51:35,803
He said he went from his bedroom
to the front door. Isn't that enough?
756
00:51:35,887 --> 00:51:38,242
- Where was the bedroom?
- Down the hall.
757
00:51:38,327 --> 00:51:40,966
- Don't you remember that?
- No.
758
00:51:41,047 --> 00:51:45,916
- I want to see a diagram of the apartment.
- Why don't we have him on trial again?
759
00:51:46,007 --> 00:51:48,202
You're the only one
wants to see exhibits.
760
00:51:48,287 --> 00:51:51,484
- I want to see this one, too.
- I'd like to stop wastin' time.
761
00:51:51,567 --> 00:51:54,684
If we're gonna wade through
that nonsense about the body...
762
00:51:54,767 --> 00:52:00,000
No, but I'd like to know if an old man
who drags one foot cos he had a stroke
763
00:52:00,087 --> 00:52:02,760
can get from his bedroom
to his front door in 15 seconds.
764
00:52:02,847 --> 00:52:04,519
- He said 20.
- He said 15.
765
00:52:04,607 --> 00:52:08,122
- 20. What are you tryin' to distort?
- He said 15.
766
00:52:08,207 --> 00:52:11,244
How does he know how long
15 seconds is? You can't judge that.
767
00:52:11,327 --> 00:52:13,761
He said 15. He was positive about it.
768
00:52:13,847 --> 00:52:15,997
He was an old man! He was confused!
769
00:52:16,087 --> 00:52:19,557
How could he be positive about anything?
770
00:52:25,887 --> 00:52:29,846
I don't see what you're going to prove.
The man said he saw the boy running out.
771
00:52:29,927 --> 00:52:33,078
Let's see if the details bear him out.
As the body hit the floor,
772
00:52:33,167 --> 00:52:36,443
he said he heard footsteps upstairs,
running to the front door.
773
00:52:36,527 --> 00:52:39,599
Heard the upstairs door open,
the footsteps start down.
774
00:52:39,687 --> 00:52:45,205
He said he got to his own door in, at most,
15 seconds. If the killer ran immediately...
775
00:52:45,287 --> 00:52:47,755
- Maybe he didn't.
- The old man said he did.
776
00:52:47,847 --> 00:52:51,044
You oughta be at
that hair-splitters' convention.
777
00:52:51,127 --> 00:52:53,357
Why don't you stop
making smart remarks?
778
00:52:53,447 --> 00:52:57,838
My friend, for your three dollars a day,
you have to listen to everything.
779
00:52:57,927 --> 00:53:03,604
Here's the apartment. The old man's was
directly beneath and exactly the same.
780
00:53:03,687 --> 00:53:08,715
Here are the el tracks, the bedroom, living
room, kitchen, bathroom, hall, stairs.
781
00:53:08,807 --> 00:53:10,957
The old man was in this bedroom here.
782
00:53:11,047 --> 00:53:14,278
He says he crossed to the door,
walked down the hall, opened the door
783
00:53:14,367 --> 00:53:17,518
just in time to see the boy
running down the stairs. Am I right?
784
00:53:17,607 --> 00:53:19,837
That's the story, for the 19th time.
785
00:53:19,927 --> 00:53:23,283
- 15 seconds after the body hit the floor.
- Correct.
786
00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:25,358
Now, let's see. It was...
787
00:53:25,447 --> 00:53:29,076
It's 12 feet from the bed to the door.
The hall is 43 feet.
788
00:53:29,167 --> 00:53:32,477
He would have had to walk 12 feet,
open the bedroom door,
789
00:53:32,567 --> 00:53:36,003
walk 43 feet down and open
the front door, all in 15 seconds.
790
00:53:36,087 --> 00:53:38,078
- Could he have done it?
- Sure.
791
00:53:38,167 --> 00:53:41,045
He walks slowly. He needed help
into the witness chair.
792
00:53:41,127 --> 00:53:46,247
- You make it sound like a long walk.
- For an old man who had a stroke, it is.
793
00:53:46,327 --> 00:53:48,795
- What are you doin'?
- I'm gonna try it.
794
00:53:48,887 --> 00:53:51,765
What do you mean?
Why didn't his lawyer bring it up?
795
00:53:51,847 --> 00:53:55,806
- Maybe he just didn't think of it.
- Do you think he's an idiot? It's obvious.
796
00:53:55,887 --> 00:53:58,799
- Did you think of it?
- It don't matter. He didn't bring it up
797
00:53:58,887 --> 00:54:00,798
because he knew it'd hurt his case.
798
00:54:00,887 --> 00:54:04,766
Or because it would have meant bullying
and badgering a helpless old man.
799
00:54:04,847 --> 00:54:08,044
That doesn't sit well with a jury.
Most lawyers avoid it.
800
00:54:08,127 --> 00:54:10,687
- What kind of a bum is he?
- That's what I'm asking.
801
00:54:10,767 --> 00:54:13,679
Pass me that chair.
Those two chairs are the old man's bed.
802
00:54:13,767 --> 00:54:16,440
I just paced off 12 feet.
This is the bedroom door.
803
00:54:16,527 --> 00:54:19,280
That's crazy.
You can't re-create a thing like that.
804
00:54:19,367 --> 00:54:24,600
The hall was 43 feet.
I'll pace from that wall and back again.
805
00:54:24,687 --> 00:54:28,077
This is insane. What are you
wasting everybody's time for?
806
00:54:28,167 --> 00:54:31,318
According to you, it'll only take
15 seconds. We can spare that.
807
00:54:34,567 --> 00:54:36,558
Come on. Knock it off.
808
00:54:36,647 --> 00:54:39,445
OK. OK, OK, killer.
809
00:54:40,207 --> 00:54:42,198
Yeah.
810
00:54:43,927 --> 00:54:48,079
Will you stand there and mark the front
door? It was chain-locked, remember.
811
00:54:48,167 --> 00:54:50,442
- Who's got a watch with a second hand?
- I have.
812
00:54:50,527 --> 00:54:54,759
Stamp your foot. That'll be the body
falling. You can time me from there.
813
00:54:54,847 --> 00:54:58,726
- What are we gonna do, play charades?
- What are we waiting for?
814
00:54:58,807 --> 00:55:01,116
I wanna wait till
the second hand reaches 60.
815
00:55:01,207 --> 00:55:03,198
Aw, come on!
816
00:55:09,207 --> 00:55:13,359
Come on, speed it up.
He can walk twice as fast as that.
817
00:55:13,447 --> 00:55:17,042
If you want me to walk
faster than that, I will.
818
00:55:32,047 --> 00:55:35,119
- Lock. Door. Stop.
- Right.
819
00:55:35,207 --> 00:55:37,118
What's the time?
820
00:55:37,207 --> 00:55:40,279
Exactly... 41 seconds.
821
00:55:40,367 --> 00:55:44,679
This is what I think happened. The old
man heard the fight a few hours earlier.
822
00:55:44,767 --> 00:55:47,327
When he's in bed,
he heard the body hit the floor,
823
00:55:47,407 --> 00:55:50,797
heard the woman scream, got to
his front door as fast as he could,
824
00:55:50,887 --> 00:55:53,355
heard somebody running
and assumed it was the boy.
825
00:55:53,447 --> 00:55:56,439
- I think that's possible.
- Assumed?
826
00:55:57,847 --> 00:56:00,680
Brother, I've seen all kinds
of dishonesty in my day,
827
00:56:00,767 --> 00:56:03,600
but this little display takes the cake.
828
00:56:03,687 --> 00:56:08,397
You all come in here with your hearts
bleedin' about slum kids and injustice.
829
00:56:08,487 --> 00:56:12,605
You listen to some fairy tales. You start
getting through to these old ladies.
830
00:56:12,687 --> 00:56:15,440
You're not getting through to me.
I've had enough.
831
00:56:15,527 --> 00:56:19,566
What's the matter with you guys?
You all know he's guilty! He's got to burn!
832
00:56:19,647 --> 00:56:22,923
- He'll slip through our fingers.
- Slip through our fingers?
833
00:56:23,007 --> 00:56:26,761
- Are you his executioner?
- I'm one of 'em.
834
00:56:26,847 --> 00:56:30,635
- Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch.
- For this kid, you bet I would.
835
00:56:30,727 --> 00:56:34,436
I feel sorry for you. What it must
feel like to wanna pull the switch!
836
00:56:34,527 --> 00:56:38,361
Ever since you walked in, you've acted
like a self-appointed public avenger.
837
00:56:38,447 --> 00:56:42,326
You want to see this boy die because
you want it, not because of the facts.
838
00:56:42,407 --> 00:56:44,841
- You're a sadist.
- You...
839
00:56:44,927 --> 00:56:48,522
Let me go! I'll kill him! I'll kill him!
840
00:56:48,607 --> 00:56:51,758
You don't really mean
you'll kill me, do you?
841
00:56:57,927 --> 00:57:01,556
- Anything wrong? I heard some noise.
- No, everything's all right.
842
00:57:01,647 --> 00:57:04,286
We're just... Friendly little argument.
843
00:57:04,367 --> 00:57:09,361
We're through with that diagram.
You can take it if you want. Here you are.
844
00:57:15,687 --> 00:57:18,076
What are you lookin' at?
845
00:57:37,527 --> 00:57:40,280
- Somebody has to start off again.
- I beg pardon...
846
00:57:40,367 --> 00:57:43,165
"I beg pardon."
What are you so polite about?
847
00:57:43,247 --> 00:57:48,196
For the same reason you're not.
It's the way I was brought up.
848
00:57:49,167 --> 00:57:52,955
This fighting... That's not
why we are here, to fight.
849
00:57:53,047 --> 00:57:55,436
We have a responsibility.
850
00:57:56,527 --> 00:58:00,759
This, I have always thought,
is a remarkable thing about democracy.
851
00:58:00,847 --> 00:58:03,042
That we are...
852
00:58:04,407 --> 00:58:06,398
What is the word?
853
00:58:06,487 --> 00:58:10,639
Notified. That we are notified by mail
to come down to this place
854
00:58:10,727 --> 00:58:17,724
to decide on the guilt or innocence of a
man we... we have never heard of before.
855
00:58:17,807 --> 00:58:22,801
We have nothing to gain or lose
by... by our verdict.
856
00:58:22,887 --> 00:58:26,926
This is one of the reasons
why we are strong.
857
00:58:27,007 --> 00:58:30,795
We should not make it a... personal thing.
858
00:58:34,207 --> 00:58:37,677
If nobody else has an idea,
I might have a cutie here.
859
00:58:37,767 --> 00:58:40,201
Let's throw it out
and see if the cat licks it up.
860
00:58:40,287 --> 00:58:42,642
- The cat licks it up?
- Yeah. The boy...
861
00:58:47,087 --> 00:58:52,286
Look how dark it's gettin' out there.
I bet we're gonna have a storm now.
862
00:58:53,287 --> 00:58:56,438
Boy, oh boy. It's really hot, huh?
863
00:58:57,127 --> 00:59:02,155
- Pardon me, but... don't you ever sweat?
- No, I don't.
864
00:59:03,447 --> 00:59:06,598
Listen. I... I was wonderin' if...
865
00:59:07,967 --> 00:59:10,720
Maybe... maybe we should
take another vote.
866
00:59:10,807 --> 00:59:15,881
Great. Maybe we can follow this one up
with a little dancing and refreshments!
867
00:59:15,967 --> 00:59:18,959
- Mr Foreman?
- Well, that's OK with me.
868
00:59:19,047 --> 00:59:22,642
Anyone doesn't wanna vote?
Hey, come on.
869
00:59:23,487 --> 00:59:26,320
- Sorry.
- I think we ought to have an open ballot.
870
00:59:26,407 --> 00:59:29,558
Call out our votes, you know?
Let's see who stands where.
871
00:59:29,647 --> 00:59:33,037
Well, that sounds fair to me.
Anyone object?
872
00:59:34,767 --> 00:59:38,157
OK. I'll call off your jury numbers. One?
873
00:59:38,247 --> 00:59:41,364
Oh, that's me. I vote guilty. Two?
874
00:59:42,807 --> 00:59:44,638
Not guilty.
875
00:59:44,727 --> 00:59:46,399
Number three?
876
00:59:46,487 --> 00:59:48,318
Guilty.
877
00:59:48,407 --> 00:59:50,398
Number four?
878
00:59:51,567 --> 00:59:53,159
Guilty.
879
00:59:53,247 --> 00:59:54,726
Number five?
880
00:59:54,807 --> 00:59:56,798
Not guilty.
881
00:59:56,887 --> 00:59:58,923
Number six?
882
00:59:59,007 --> 01:00:00,884
Not guilty.
883
01:00:00,967 --> 01:00:02,605
Number seven?
884
01:00:02,687 --> 01:00:04,405
Guilty.
885
01:00:04,487 --> 01:00:06,284
Number eight?
886
01:00:06,367 --> 01:00:08,358
Not guilty.
887
01:00:09,447 --> 01:00:12,280
- Number nine?
- Not guilty.
888
01:00:12,367 --> 01:00:15,200
- Number ten?
- Guilty.
889
01:00:16,047 --> 01:00:17,958
Number eleven?
890
01:00:18,047 --> 01:00:19,799
Not guilty.
891
01:00:19,887 --> 01:00:21,878
Number twelve?
892
01:00:22,247 --> 01:00:24,397
Number twelve!
893
01:00:24,487 --> 01:00:26,682
Guilty.
894
01:00:31,767 --> 01:00:34,327
The vote is now six to six.
895
01:00:34,407 --> 01:00:37,205
And we go into extra innings here, eh?
896
01:00:38,567 --> 01:00:43,595
Six to six! I'm telling you, some of you
people in here must be out of your minds.
897
01:00:43,687 --> 01:00:45,200
A kid like that!
898
01:00:45,287 --> 01:00:48,597
I don't think the kind of boy he is
has anything to do with it.
899
01:00:48,687 --> 01:00:51,326
- Facts determine the case.
- Don't give me that!
900
01:00:51,407 --> 01:00:54,479
I'm sick and tired of facts.
You can twist 'em any way you like.
901
01:00:54,567 --> 01:00:57,718
That's exactly the point
this gentleman has been making.
902
01:00:57,807 --> 01:01:00,480
You keep shouting
at the top of your lungs...
903
01:01:01,727 --> 01:01:05,686
I'd like to be a few years younger.
That man gets on my...
904
01:01:08,927 --> 01:01:11,316
- My, it's hot in here.
- Want a drink of water?
905
01:01:11,407 --> 01:01:13,398
No, no. Thanks. Thanks.
906
01:01:22,607 --> 01:01:26,919
- It's gonna rain.
- Well, how'd you figure that out, killer?
907
01:01:27,887 --> 01:01:32,244
- How come you changed your vote?
- It just seemed there was room for doubt.
908
01:01:32,327 --> 01:01:35,239
- You haven't got a leg to stand on.
- I don't feel that way.
909
01:01:35,327 --> 01:01:38,399
- A lot of details never came out.
- Yeah, well, good luck.
910
01:01:38,487 --> 01:01:44,005
Come on. You're like everybody else.
You think too much, you get mixed up.
911
01:01:44,087 --> 01:01:47,921
- You know what I mean?
- I don't think you have any right to...
912
01:01:48,007 --> 01:01:49,998
Loudmouth.
913
01:02:41,087 --> 01:02:43,999
Look at that come down, will ya?
914
01:02:44,567 --> 01:02:49,004
You know, this reminds me
of a storm we had last...
915
01:02:50,327 --> 01:02:53,797
Was it November?
I don't know. Something.
916
01:02:53,887 --> 01:02:57,596
It was quite a storm we had.
It was right in the middle of a game.
917
01:02:57,687 --> 01:03:02,522
We were behind-seven to six. We'd just
started to move the ball, made a tackle.
918
01:03:02,607 --> 01:03:07,203
It was gonna cut right in, slash through,
slashed right in, cut right through...
919
01:03:07,287 --> 01:03:09,278
And...
920
01:03:09,767 --> 01:03:12,156
We had this kid - Slattery.
921
01:03:13,167 --> 01:03:15,556
He was an ox. A real ox.
922
01:03:16,367 --> 01:03:18,676
I wish I had another one just like him.
923
01:03:18,767 --> 01:03:23,045
I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant head
coach at Andrew J McCorkle High School.
924
01:03:23,127 --> 01:03:25,277
That's out in Queens.
925
01:03:25,367 --> 01:03:29,838
And anyway... we're starting
to move along real nice.
926
01:03:29,927 --> 01:03:34,443
You know, their whole line is just...
just comin' apart.
927
01:03:34,527 --> 01:03:37,997
And it starts to come down,
cats and dogs, just like this.
928
01:03:38,087 --> 01:03:41,716
Just... whoosh! You know, right down.
929
01:03:41,807 --> 01:03:45,117
Well, it was murder, you know?
930
01:03:45,207 --> 01:03:50,201
I swear, I... I nearly bawled.
Just... We couldn't go nowhere.
931
01:04:07,527 --> 01:04:10,963
Hey, what is it with this fan here?
How come...
932
01:04:20,407 --> 01:04:23,205
Must have been
on the same switch with the lights.
933
01:04:23,287 --> 01:04:26,165
Well, things are lookin' up here, huh?
934
01:04:26,847 --> 01:04:28,838
Yeah.
935
01:04:32,887 --> 01:04:34,878
Boy, that's better.
936
01:04:41,287 --> 01:04:43,676
Hey! Two points.
937
01:04:48,327 --> 01:04:51,046
You guys ever go to the Garden?
938
01:04:52,407 --> 01:04:55,160
That's a damn stupid thing to do.
939
01:04:55,247 --> 01:04:57,238
Oh, I'm sorry. I...
940
01:04:58,327 --> 01:05:00,318
You know?
941
01:05:01,367 --> 01:05:03,642
Pardon me.
942
01:05:03,727 --> 01:05:08,357
Well, how do you like it? Even-steven.
Pretty surprising, isn't it?
943
01:05:08,447 --> 01:05:10,438
Yes.
944
01:05:11,607 --> 01:05:16,442
That... business before, when that tall guy,
whatshisname, was tryin' to bait me?
945
01:05:16,527 --> 01:05:20,202
That doesn't prove anything.
I'm a... pretty excitable person.
946
01:05:20,287 --> 01:05:23,916
Where does he come off
calling me a public avenger, a sadist?
947
01:05:24,007 --> 01:05:27,522
Anyone in his right mind
would blow his stack.
948
01:05:27,607 --> 01:05:29,757
He was just tryin' to bait me.
949
01:05:29,847 --> 01:05:32,236
He did an excellent job.
950
01:05:34,207 --> 01:05:36,243
I think we're going nowhere here.
951
01:05:36,327 --> 01:05:38,795
I'm ready to walk into court
and declare a hung jury.
952
01:05:38,887 --> 01:05:42,004
- There's no point in this thing going on.
- I go for that, too.
953
01:05:42,087 --> 01:05:44,681
Let the kid take his chance
with 12 other guys.
954
01:05:44,767 --> 01:05:47,884
The judge won't accept a hung jury.
We haven't been here long.
955
01:05:47,967 --> 01:05:50,879
- Well, let's find out.
- I am not in favour of that.
956
01:05:50,967 --> 01:05:54,357
This kid wouldn't stand a chance
with another jury, and you know it.
957
01:05:54,447 --> 01:05:57,245
Come on, we're hung.
Nobody's gonna change his vote.
958
01:05:57,327 --> 01:06:00,558
- Still no room for reasonable doubt?
- No.
959
01:06:00,647 --> 01:06:05,641
Pardon. Maybe you don't fully understand
the term "reasonable doubt".
960
01:06:05,727 --> 01:06:08,719
What do you mean, I don't understand?
961
01:06:08,807 --> 01:06:12,004
How do you like this guy?
I'm tellin' you, they're all alike.
962
01:06:12,087 --> 01:06:14,726
They come over here
and before they can take a breath,
963
01:06:14,807 --> 01:06:17,401
they're telling us how to run the show.
964
01:06:17,487 --> 01:06:20,445
- Boy, the arrogance of this guy!
- All right.
965
01:06:20,527 --> 01:06:23,599
Let's stop the arguing
for about two minutes in here.
966
01:06:23,687 --> 01:06:26,121
Now, who's got
something constructive to say?
967
01:06:26,207 --> 01:06:29,483
I'd like to go over something,
if you gentlemen don't mind.
968
01:06:29,567 --> 01:06:31,922
An important point
for the prosecution was
969
01:06:32,007 --> 01:06:36,876
the fact that after the boy claimed he was
at the movies when the killing took place,
970
01:06:36,967 --> 01:06:40,880
he couldn't remember the names
of the movies or who starred in them.
971
01:06:40,967 --> 01:06:44,755
- This gentleman has made that point.
- That's correct.
972
01:06:44,847 --> 01:06:49,125
It's the only alibi the boy offered, and
he couldn't back it up with any details.
973
01:06:49,207 --> 01:06:52,199
In the boy's place,
do you think you could remember details
974
01:06:52,287 --> 01:06:55,643
after an upsetting experience
such as being slapped by your father?
975
01:06:55,727 --> 01:06:58,878
I think so, if there were
any special details to remember.
976
01:06:58,967 --> 01:07:02,164
The boy couldn't remember the movies
because he wasn't there.
977
01:07:02,247 --> 01:07:07,002
According to the police testimony,
the boy was questioned in the kitchen,
978
01:07:07,087 --> 01:07:09,885
while the body of his father
was lying in the bedroom.
979
01:07:09,967 --> 01:07:12,322
Do you think
you could remember details?
980
01:07:12,407 --> 01:07:14,443
- I do.
- Under great emotional stress?
981
01:07:14,527 --> 01:07:18,520
- Under great emotional stress.
- He remembered them correctly in court.
982
01:07:18,607 --> 01:07:22,122
Yes. His lawyer took great pains
to bring that out.
983
01:07:22,207 --> 01:07:26,086
He had three months to the day of the trial
in which to memorise them.
984
01:07:26,167 --> 01:07:30,524
It's not difficult for a lawyer to find out
what played on a particular night.
985
01:07:30,607 --> 01:07:34,077
I'll take the testimony
from right after the murder,
986
01:07:34,167 --> 01:07:38,319
when he couldn't remember a thing about
the movies, great emotional stress or not.
987
01:07:38,647 --> 01:07:41,798
- I'd like to ask you a personal question.
- Go ahead.
988
01:07:41,887 --> 01:07:44,959
- Where were you last night?
- I was home all night.
989
01:07:45,047 --> 01:07:47,436
- How about the night before that?
- What is this?
990
01:07:47,527 --> 01:07:51,236
It's all right. I left the office at 8.30
and went straight home and to bed.
991
01:07:51,327 --> 01:07:55,445
- And the night before that?
- That was... Tuesday night.
992
01:07:55,527 --> 01:07:58,360
- The bridge tournament. I played bridge.
- Monday night?
993
01:07:58,447 --> 01:08:01,757
When you get to
New Year's Eve 1954, let me know.
994
01:08:03,527 --> 01:08:09,636
Monday night? Monday night...
my wife and I went to the movies.
995
01:08:09,727 --> 01:08:12,560
- What did you see?
- The Scar/et Circ/e. A whodunit.
996
01:08:12,647 --> 01:08:15,400
- What was the second feature?
- The...
997
01:08:17,167 --> 01:08:19,761
I'll tell you in a minute. The...
998
01:08:19,847 --> 01:08:21,838
Remarkab/e Mrs...
999
01:08:23,167 --> 01:08:25,158
Something.
1000
01:08:26,327 --> 01:08:28,795
Mrs Bainbridge.
The Remarkab/e Mrs Bainbridge.
1001
01:08:28,887 --> 01:08:32,482
I saw that. It's called
The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge.
1002
01:08:32,567 --> 01:08:35,035
Yes. The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge.
1003
01:08:35,127 --> 01:08:37,561
Who was in
The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge?
1004
01:08:37,647 --> 01:08:41,322
Barbara... Long, I think it was.
1005
01:08:41,407 --> 01:08:43,682
A dark, very pretty girl.
1006
01:08:44,567 --> 01:08:47,798
- Ling or... Long. Something like that.
- Who else?
1007
01:08:47,887 --> 01:08:49,957
I'd never heard of them before.
1008
01:08:50,047 --> 01:08:54,484
It was a very inexpensive
second feature, with unknown...
1009
01:08:54,567 --> 01:08:58,560
And you weren't under
an emotional stress, were you?
1010
01:09:00,207 --> 01:09:02,198
No.
1011
01:09:02,287 --> 01:09:04,278
I wasn't.
1012
01:09:05,767 --> 01:09:08,645
- I think the point is made.
- Big point.
1013
01:09:10,247 --> 01:09:14,001
You can talk till your tongue is
draggin' on the floor. The boy is guilty.
1014
01:09:14,087 --> 01:09:16,237
Know what I mean, my friend?
1015
01:09:16,327 --> 01:09:20,320
- You got those cough drops?
- They're all gone, my friend.
1016
01:09:21,567 --> 01:09:25,446
Oh, boy. Look at that rain.
There goes your ball game.
1017
01:09:26,047 --> 01:09:28,277
It's only a shower.
1018
01:09:28,367 --> 01:09:30,961
Besides, they got the infield covered.
1019
01:09:31,047 --> 01:09:34,403
Say, could I see that knife
a second, please?
1020
01:09:36,127 --> 01:09:40,564
Well, we're still tied up six to six.
Who's got a suggestion?
1021
01:09:40,647 --> 01:09:44,640
- It's 5 after 6. Let's get some dinner.
- Why don't we wait till 7 o'clock?
1022
01:09:44,727 --> 01:09:45,557
OK with me.
1023
01:09:47,047 --> 01:09:50,483
There's something I'd like to say.
It's been bothering me a little,
1024
01:09:50,567 --> 01:09:52,762
and as long as we're stuck...
1025
01:09:52,847 --> 01:09:56,556
There was this whole business about
the stab wound and how it was made.
1026
01:09:56,647 --> 01:10:00,037
- The downward angle of it, you know?
- Don't start with that again.
1027
01:10:00,127 --> 01:10:03,881
- They've been over it and over it.
- I know, but I don't go along with it.
1028
01:10:03,967 --> 01:10:07,880
The boy was five feet seven inches tall.
His father was six two.
1029
01:10:07,967 --> 01:10:10,197
That's a difference of seven inches.
1030
01:10:10,287 --> 01:10:14,405
It's very awkward to stab down into the
chest of someone over half a foot taller.
1031
01:10:14,487 --> 01:10:16,842
Give me that.
1032
01:10:16,927 --> 01:10:20,522
I'll give you a demonstration.
Somebody get up.
1033
01:10:27,327 --> 01:10:29,602
Watch this - I don't wanna
have to do it again.
1034
01:10:29,687 --> 01:10:32,440
I'll make myself about
six or seven inches shorter.
1035
01:10:32,527 --> 01:10:36,042
- That's about right. Maybe a little more.
- OK, a little more.
1036
01:10:47,087 --> 01:10:49,476
Now... nobody's hurt.
1037
01:10:50,327 --> 01:10:52,716
- Right?
- Right. Nobody hurt.
1038
01:10:56,527 --> 01:11:01,317
Now, this is the way I'd stab a man
who was... taller than I was.
1039
01:11:01,407 --> 01:11:03,796
Look at the angle. Down and in.
1040
01:11:03,887 --> 01:11:07,482
And this is the way it was done.
Now tell me I'm wrong.
1041
01:11:10,167 --> 01:11:13,284
- Down and in. There's no argument.
- Hold on a minute.
1042
01:11:13,367 --> 01:11:15,358
Will you give me that?
1043
01:11:16,047 --> 01:11:18,038
Boy, I hate these things.
1044
01:11:18,127 --> 01:11:21,164
- Did you ever see a knife fight?
- No.
1045
01:11:21,247 --> 01:11:24,159
Anybody here ever see a knife fight?
1046
01:11:24,247 --> 01:11:29,162
Well, I have. You know, on my back stoop,
the lot across the street, back yard.
1047
01:11:29,247 --> 01:11:31,522
Switchblades came
with the neighbourhood.
1048
01:11:31,607 --> 01:11:34,565
Funny I never thought of it before.
I guess you try to forget.
1049
01:11:34,647 --> 01:11:39,596
- How do you use a switchblade?
- Well, you'd never use it like this.
1050
01:11:39,687 --> 01:11:42,997
See, you'd lose too much time
switching hands.
1051
01:11:43,647 --> 01:11:46,036
Here's how. Underhand.
1052
01:11:48,567 --> 01:11:51,604
Anyone who's ever used one
wouldn't handle it any other way.
1053
01:11:51,687 --> 01:11:53,996
- Are you sure?
- I'm sure.
1054
01:11:54,087 --> 01:11:58,558
- It's why they're made to open like that.
- The boy was pretty handy with a knife?
1055
01:11:58,647 --> 01:12:01,605
You think he could have made
the wound that killed his father?
1056
01:12:01,687 --> 01:12:05,566
No. Not with the experience he got
all his life handling these things.
1057
01:12:05,647 --> 01:12:08,684
- I feel he'd have gone for him underhand.
- How do you know?
1058
01:12:08,767 --> 01:12:12,555
- Were you there when he was killed?
- No. Neither was anybody else.
1059
01:12:12,647 --> 01:12:15,764
What are you giving us this
mumbo jumbo for? I don't believe it.
1060
01:12:15,847 --> 01:12:18,964
I don't think you can tell
what wound he might have made
1061
01:12:19,047 --> 01:12:21,402
simply because he knew
how to handle a knife.
1062
01:12:21,487 --> 01:12:24,479
- What do you think?
- I don't know.
1063
01:12:24,567 --> 01:12:27,843
- What do you mean, you don't know?
- I don't know.
1064
01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:34,600
- How about you?
- I don't know about the rest of 'em,
1065
01:12:34,687 --> 01:12:38,600
but I'm gettin' tired of this
yakety-yakkin'. It's gettin' us nowhere.
1066
01:12:38,687 --> 01:12:43,363
So I guess /'// have to break it up.
I'm changin' my vote to not guilty.
1067
01:12:43,447 --> 01:12:46,359
- You're what?
- You heard me. I've had enough.
1068
01:12:46,447 --> 01:12:51,601
- You've had enough? That's no answer.
- Listen, you just take care of yourself.
1069
01:12:51,687 --> 01:12:54,042
- You know?
- He's right.
1070
01:12:54,407 --> 01:12:56,762
That's not an answer.
1071
01:12:56,847 --> 01:12:59,645
What kind of a man are you?
1072
01:12:59,727 --> 01:13:02,764
You have sat here and voted
guilty with everyone else
1073
01:13:02,847 --> 01:13:06,965
because there are some baseball tickets
burning a hole in your pocket.
1074
01:13:07,047 --> 01:13:11,757
Now you have changed your vote because
you say you're sick of all the talking?
1075
01:13:11,847 --> 01:13:15,476
- Now, listen, buddy...
- Who tells you that you have the right
1076
01:13:15,567 --> 01:13:18,445
to play like this with a man's life?
Don't you care...
1077
01:13:18,527 --> 01:13:21,678
Now, wait a minute.
You can't talk like that to me.
1078
01:13:21,767 --> 01:13:26,079
I can talk like that to you.
If you want to vote not guilty,
1079
01:13:26,167 --> 01:13:30,445
do it because you are convinced he is not
guilty, not because you've had enough.
1080
01:13:30,527 --> 01:13:33,200
And if you think he is guilty,
then vote that way.
1081
01:13:33,287 --> 01:13:36,085
Or don't you have the guts
to do what you think is right?
1082
01:13:36,167 --> 01:13:39,000
- Now, listen...
- Guilty or not guilty?
1083
01:13:39,087 --> 01:13:42,557
- I told you. Not guilty.
- Why?
1084
01:13:44,367 --> 01:13:48,918
- Look, I don't have to...
- You do have to. Say it. Why?
1085
01:13:49,007 --> 01:13:51,237
I... I don't think he's guilty.
1086
01:14:00,327 --> 01:14:04,366
- I want another vote.
- OK, that's another vote called for.
1087
01:14:04,447 --> 01:14:07,359
I guess the quickest way
is a show of hands. Anyone object?
1088
01:14:07,447 --> 01:14:10,166
OK, all those voting not guilty,
raise your hands.
1089
01:14:10,527 --> 01:14:12,563
One, two, three,
1090
01:14:12,967 --> 01:14:15,959
four, five, six, seven...
1091
01:14:18,487 --> 01:14:20,478
eight.
1092
01:14:25,167 --> 01:14:27,158
Nine.
1093
01:14:28,767 --> 01:14:31,884
All those voting guilty, raise your hands.
1094
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:34,162
One, two, three.
1095
01:14:34,247 --> 01:14:37,557
Well, the vote's nine to three
in favour of acquittal.
1096
01:14:37,727 --> 01:14:39,445
I don't understand you people!
1097
01:14:39,527 --> 01:14:43,361
All these picky little points you keep
bringing up, they don't mean nothing!
1098
01:14:43,447 --> 01:14:45,085
You saw this kid just like I did.
1099
01:14:45,167 --> 01:14:48,523
Don't tell me you believe that
phoney story about losing the knife
1100
01:14:48,607 --> 01:14:50,598
and about being at the movies.
1101
01:14:50,687 --> 01:14:53,599
Look, you know how these people lie.
It's born in them.
1102
01:14:53,687 --> 01:14:57,566
What the heck? I don't have to tell you.
They don't know what the truth is!
1103
01:14:57,647 --> 01:15:01,117
And they don't need any real big reason
to kill someone, either.
1104
01:15:01,207 --> 01:15:05,917
No, sir. They get drunk.
They're real big drinkers, all of 'em.
1105
01:15:06,007 --> 01:15:08,965
You know that. And bang!
Someone's lying in the gutter.
1106
01:15:09,047 --> 01:15:12,005
Nobody's blaming 'em.
That's the way they are by nature.
1107
01:15:12,087 --> 01:15:15,443
You know what I mean? Violent.
Where are you going?
1108
01:15:15,527 --> 01:15:19,520
Human life don't mean
as much to them as it does to us.
1109
01:15:19,607 --> 01:15:22,121
They're lushing it up
and fighting all the time,
1110
01:15:22,207 --> 01:15:25,722
and if somebody gets killed,
somebody gets killed! They don't care!
1111
01:15:25,807 --> 01:15:29,686
Sure, there's some good things about 'em,
too. I'm the first one to say that.
1112
01:15:29,767 --> 01:15:33,203
I've known a couple who were OK,
but that's the exception.
1113
01:15:33,287 --> 01:15:36,802
Most of 'em, it's like they have
no feelings! They can do anything!
1114
01:15:36,887 --> 01:15:38,878
What's going on here?
1115
01:15:39,567 --> 01:15:43,446
I'm trying to tell you.
You're making a big mistake, you people.
1116
01:15:43,527 --> 01:15:47,122
This kid is a liar. I know it.
I know all about them.
1117
01:15:48,047 --> 01:15:50,038
Listen to me. They're no good.
1118
01:15:50,127 --> 01:15:52,721
There's not a one of 'em who's any good.
1119
01:15:54,407 --> 01:15:56,796
I mean, what's happening in here?
1120
01:15:56,887 --> 01:15:59,355
I speak my piece, and you...
1121
01:16:00,127 --> 01:16:02,118
Listen to me.
1122
01:16:02,847 --> 01:16:05,236
I... We're... we're...
1123
01:16:05,327 --> 01:16:09,718
This kid on trial here. His type.
Well, don't you know about them?
1124
01:16:10,527 --> 01:16:12,916
There's a... There's a danger here.
1125
01:16:13,927 --> 01:16:15,997
These people are dangerous.
1126
01:16:16,087 --> 01:16:18,282
They're... wild.
1127
01:16:19,167 --> 01:16:21,556
Listen to me. Listen to me.
1128
01:16:22,127 --> 01:16:25,961
I have. Now, sit down
and don't open your mouth again.
1129
01:16:29,727 --> 01:16:32,446
Some of the time... I tell you.
1130
01:17:07,367 --> 01:17:12,646
It's always difficult to keep personal
prejudice out of a thing like this.
1131
01:17:12,727 --> 01:17:18,006
Wherever you run into it,
prejudice always obscures the truth.
1132
01:17:18,087 --> 01:17:20,362
I don't really know what the truth is.
1133
01:17:20,447 --> 01:17:24,486
I don't suppose anybody
will ever really know.
1134
01:17:24,567 --> 01:17:28,196
Nine of us now seem to feel
that the defendant is innocent.
1135
01:17:28,287 --> 01:17:33,202
But we're just gambling on
probabilities. We may be wrong.
1136
01:17:33,287 --> 01:17:38,998
We may be trying to let a guilty man
go free. I don't know. Nobody really can.
1137
01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:41,282
But we have a reasonable doubt.
1138
01:17:41,367 --> 01:17:44,962
And that's something
that's very valuable in our system.
1139
01:17:45,047 --> 01:17:49,484
No jury can declare a man guilty
unless it's sure.
1140
01:17:50,567 --> 01:17:55,721
We nine can't understand
how you three are still so sure.
1141
01:17:56,687 --> 01:17:59,076
- Maybe you can tell us.
- I'll try.
1142
01:17:59,887 --> 01:18:03,402
You've made some excellent points,
but I still believe the boy is guilty.
1143
01:18:03,487 --> 01:18:07,765
I have two reasons. One: The evidence
given by the woman across the street,
1144
01:18:07,847 --> 01:18:10,566
who actually saw the murder committed.
1145
01:18:10,647 --> 01:18:13,241
That's the most important testimony.
1146
01:18:13,327 --> 01:18:15,841
And two: The fact that
she described the stabbing
1147
01:18:15,927 --> 01:18:18,919
by saying she saw the boy
raise his arm over his head
1148
01:18:19,007 --> 01:18:21,805
and stab down into the father's chest.
1149
01:18:21,887 --> 01:18:25,721
- She saw him do it, the wrong way.
- That's absolutely right.
1150
01:18:26,167 --> 01:18:28,476
Let's talk about this woman for a moment.
1151
01:18:28,567 --> 01:18:31,604
She said she went to bed
about eleven o'clock that night.
1152
01:18:31,687 --> 01:18:34,884
Her bed was next to the window,
and she could look out
1153
01:18:34,967 --> 01:18:38,926
and see directly into
the boy's room across the street.
1154
01:18:39,007 --> 01:18:41,441
She tossed and turned for over an hour.
1155
01:18:41,527 --> 01:18:45,520
Finally, she turned toward the window
at about 10 minutes after 12,
1156
01:18:45,607 --> 01:18:50,727
and as she looked out, she saw the killing
through the windows of a passing el train.
1157
01:18:50,807 --> 01:18:53,116
She said the lights went out
after the killing,
1158
01:18:53,207 --> 01:18:58,759
but that she got a good look at the boy
in the act of stabbing his father.
1159
01:18:58,847 --> 01:19:03,204
As far as I can see it,
this is unshakeable testimony.
1160
01:19:03,287 --> 01:19:06,677
- Well, that's the whole case.
- What do you think?
1161
01:19:11,167 --> 01:19:13,158
How about you?
1162
01:19:14,407 --> 01:19:20,437
I don't know. So much evidence to sift.
This is a pretty complicated business.
1163
01:19:20,527 --> 01:19:24,315
Frankly, I don't see how
you can vote for acquittal.
1164
01:19:24,407 --> 01:19:28,400
- It's not so easy to arrange the evidence.
- Throw out all the other evidence!
1165
01:19:28,487 --> 01:19:31,957
The woman saw him do it!
What else do you want?
1166
01:19:32,047 --> 01:19:34,117
- Well, maybe...
- Let's vote on it.
1167
01:19:34,207 --> 01:19:37,916
OK, there's another vote called for.
Anyone object?
1168
01:19:38,007 --> 01:19:40,157
All right. I'm changing my vote.
1169
01:19:40,247 --> 01:19:43,319
- He's guilty.
- Anybody else? The vote is eight to four.
1170
01:19:43,407 --> 01:19:46,797
Why is this such a personal triumph
for you, this one vote?
1171
01:19:46,887 --> 01:19:50,197
OK. I say we're a hung jury.
I say we take it in to the judge.
1172
01:19:50,287 --> 01:19:53,085
How about it? I wanna hear arguments.
1173
01:19:53,167 --> 01:19:56,762
You, you're the leader of the cause.
What about it?
1174
01:19:57,607 --> 01:20:01,236
- Let's go over it again.
- We've been over it again.
1175
01:20:01,327 --> 01:20:05,923
The boy in the grey flannel suit is
bouncin' back and forth like a tennis ball.
1176
01:20:06,007 --> 01:20:11,240
There's no point in getting nasty.
You keep trying to turn this into a contest.
1177
01:20:11,847 --> 01:20:12,882
OK.
1178
01:20:12,967 --> 01:20:15,925
Maybe we can talk about
setting some kind of time limit.
1179
01:20:16,007 --> 01:20:18,805
Yeah. Once around for the deal, huh?
1180
01:20:18,887 --> 01:20:24,484
It's... a quarter after six. Someone
before mentioned seven o'clock.
1181
01:20:24,567 --> 01:20:30,039
That's a point at which we might begin to
discuss whether we're a hung jury or not.
1182
01:20:30,127 --> 01:20:34,803
- Don't you feel well?
- I feel perfectly well, thank you.
1183
01:20:34,887 --> 01:20:37,720
I was saying seven o'clock
would be a reasonable time...
1184
01:20:37,807 --> 01:20:41,880
The reason I asked that was because
you were rubbing your nose like...
1185
01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:44,527
Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting.
1186
01:20:44,607 --> 01:20:47,883
But you made a gesture
that reminded me of something.
1187
01:20:47,967 --> 01:20:52,677
- I'm trying to settle something here.
- Well, I think this is important.
1188
01:20:52,887 --> 01:20:57,085
Thank you. Now, then.
I'm sure you'll pardon me for this,
1189
01:20:57,167 --> 01:21:00,079
but I was wondering why
you rub your nose like that.
1190
01:21:00,167 --> 01:21:01,395
Come on, will you?
1191
01:21:01,487 --> 01:21:05,765
At this point I happen to be talking
to the gentleman sitting next to you.
1192
01:21:05,847 --> 01:21:09,123
Now, why were you
rubbing your nose like that?
1193
01:21:09,207 --> 01:21:12,961
If it's any of your business, I was
rubbing it because it bothers me a little.
1194
01:21:13,047 --> 01:21:16,881
Oh, I'm sorry. Is it...
Is it because of your eyeglasses?
1195
01:21:16,967 --> 01:21:20,357
It is. Now could we get on
to something else?
1196
01:21:20,447 --> 01:21:24,804
Your eyeglasses made those two deep
impressions on the sides of your nose.
1197
01:21:24,887 --> 01:21:28,323
I hadn't noticed that before.
That must be annoying.
1198
01:21:28,407 --> 01:21:30,398
It is very annoying.
1199
01:21:30,487 --> 01:21:35,686
I wouldn't know about that.
I've never worn eyeglasses. 20/20.
1200
01:21:35,767 --> 01:21:39,806
Listen, will you come on already
with the optometrist bit?
1201
01:21:39,887 --> 01:21:43,402
The woman who testified
that she saw the killing
1202
01:21:43,487 --> 01:21:47,526
had those same marks
on the sides of her nose.
1203
01:21:47,607 --> 01:21:49,598
Holy smoke! He's right.
1204
01:21:49,687 --> 01:21:55,159
Please. Just give me a minute...
and I'll be finished.
1205
01:21:55,247 --> 01:21:58,080
I don't know if anyone else
noticed that about her.
1206
01:21:58,167 --> 01:22:04,800
I didn't think of it then, but I've been
going over her face... in my mind.
1207
01:22:04,887 --> 01:22:08,960
She had those same marks.
She kept rubbing them in court.
1208
01:22:09,367 --> 01:22:12,643
He's right. She did do that a lot.
1209
01:22:12,727 --> 01:22:16,356
This woman was about 45 years old.
1210
01:22:17,327 --> 01:22:21,161
She was making
a tremendous effort to look 35.
1211
01:22:21,247 --> 01:22:26,560
For her first public appearance.
Heavy make-up. Dyed hair.
1212
01:22:26,647 --> 01:22:30,322
Brand-new clothes that should have
been worn by a younger woman.
1213
01:22:30,407 --> 01:22:36,118
No glasses. Well, women do that.
See if you can get a mental picture of her.
1214
01:22:36,207 --> 01:22:39,597
What do you mean, no glasses? How do
you know whether she wore glasses?
1215
01:22:39,687 --> 01:22:42,918
- Just cos she was rubbin' her nose?
- She had those marks. I saw 'em.
1216
01:22:43,007 --> 01:22:46,238
- So? What do you think that means?
- I'm sick of your yellin'...
1217
01:22:46,327 --> 01:22:47,760
Come on. Forget it.
1218
01:22:47,847 --> 01:22:52,238
Hey, listen. Listen, he's right. I saw
them too. I was the closest one to her.
1219
01:22:52,327 --> 01:22:55,285
She had these things
on the side of her nose.
1220
01:22:55,567 --> 01:22:57,205
What point are you makin'?
1221
01:22:57,287 --> 01:23:00,757
She had dyed hair, marks on her nose.
What does that mean?
1222
01:23:00,847 --> 01:23:05,238
Could those marks be made
by anything other than eyeglasses?
1223
01:23:08,527 --> 01:23:10,563
No. They couldn't.
1224
01:23:10,647 --> 01:23:13,036
I didn't see any marks!
1225
01:23:14,447 --> 01:23:18,406
I did. Strange,
but I didn't think about it before.
1226
01:23:18,487 --> 01:23:20,637
Why didn't the lawyer say something?
1227
01:23:20,727 --> 01:23:23,560
There are twelve people in here
concentrating on this case.
1228
01:23:23,647 --> 01:23:27,196
- Eleven of us didn't think of it either.
- What about the district attorney?
1229
01:23:27,287 --> 01:23:30,677
You think he'd pull that?
Have her testify without her glasses?
1230
01:23:30,767 --> 01:23:34,840
Ever see a woman who didn't want to
wear them because they spoil her looks?
1231
01:23:34,927 --> 01:23:39,523
OK. She had marks on her nose.
I'm givin' you that.
1232
01:23:39,607 --> 01:23:42,804
From glasses, right? She didn't
wanna wear 'em out of the house
1233
01:23:42,887 --> 01:23:45,799
so people'd think she's gorgeous.
1234
01:23:45,887 --> 01:23:50,039
But when she saw this kid killin'
his father, she was in the house alone.
1235
01:23:50,127 --> 01:23:52,118
That's all.
1236
01:23:52,247 --> 01:23:54,602
Do you wear glasses when you go to bed?
1237
01:23:54,687 --> 01:23:56,678
No. I don't.
1238
01:23:57,687 --> 01:23:59,643
No one wears eyeglasses to bed.
1239
01:23:59,727 --> 01:24:04,118
It's logical to assume
that she wasn't wearing them in bed.
1240
01:24:04,207 --> 01:24:06,562
- How do you know?
- I don't know. I'm guessing.
1241
01:24:06,647 --> 01:24:11,118
I'm also guessing that she didn't put them
on when she looked out of the window.
1242
01:24:11,207 --> 01:24:14,199
She testified the killing
took place just as she looked out.
1243
01:24:14,287 --> 01:24:17,165
The lights went off.
She didn't have time to put them on.
1244
01:24:17,247 --> 01:24:20,956
Here's another guess. She honestly
thought she saw the boy kill his father.
1245
01:24:21,047 --> 01:24:24,403
- I say she only saw a blur.
- How do you know what she saw?
1246
01:24:24,487 --> 01:24:27,843
How does he know all that? How
do you know what glasses she wore?
1247
01:24:27,927 --> 01:24:31,681
Maybe they were sunglasses! Maybe
she was far-sighted! What do you know?
1248
01:24:31,767 --> 01:24:34,645
I only know the woman's eyesight
is in question now.
1249
01:24:34,727 --> 01:24:40,518
She had to be able to identify a person
60 feet away, at night, without glasses.
1250
01:24:40,607 --> 01:24:43,485
You can't send someone off
to die on evidence like that.
1251
01:24:43,567 --> 01:24:45,000
Aw, don't give me that.
1252
01:24:45,087 --> 01:24:47,965
- Might she not have made a mistake?
- No.
1253
01:24:48,167 --> 01:24:51,079
- It's not possible?
- No, it's not possible.
1254
01:24:54,207 --> 01:24:56,198
Is it possible?
1255
01:24:57,047 --> 01:24:59,038
Not guilty.
1256
01:25:02,607 --> 01:25:05,121
Do you think he's guilty?
1257
01:25:05,207 --> 01:25:07,402
I think he's guilty.
1258
01:25:09,807 --> 01:25:11,798
Do you?
1259
01:25:13,967 --> 01:25:15,400
No.
1260
01:25:15,487 --> 01:25:18,399
I'm convinced. Not guilty.
1261
01:25:18,487 --> 01:25:22,275
- What's the matter with you?
- I have a reasonable doubt now.
1262
01:25:22,367 --> 01:25:25,325
- It's eleven to one.
- What about all the other evidence?
1263
01:25:25,407 --> 01:25:28,843
What about all that stuff? The...
The knife? The whole business?
1264
01:25:28,927 --> 01:25:32,840
Well, you said we could
throw out all the other evidence.
1265
01:25:37,247 --> 01:25:39,636
Well, what do we do now?
1266
01:25:42,367 --> 01:25:44,164
You're alone.
1267
01:25:44,247 --> 01:25:48,365
I don't care whether I'm alone or not.
It's my right.
1268
01:25:50,607 --> 01:25:52,518
It's your right.
1269
01:26:01,607 --> 01:26:04,440
Well, what do you want? I say he's guilty.
1270
01:26:05,247 --> 01:26:09,286
- We want to hear your arguments.
- I gave you my arguments.
1271
01:26:09,687 --> 01:26:13,282
We're not convinced.
We want to hear them again.
1272
01:26:14,367 --> 01:26:17,040
We have as much time as it takes.
1273
01:26:21,807 --> 01:26:27,882
Everything-every single thing that took
place in that courtroom says he's guilty.
1274
01:26:27,967 --> 01:26:30,959
What do you think?
I'm an idiot or somethin'?
1275
01:26:31,967 --> 01:26:37,439
Take that stuff about the old man,
who lived there and heard everything!
1276
01:26:38,647 --> 01:26:42,162
Or this business about the knife.
They found another one exactly like it?
1277
01:26:42,247 --> 01:26:45,603
The old man saw him!
Right there, on the stairs.
1278
01:26:45,687 --> 01:26:49,157
What's the difference
how many seconds it was?
1279
01:26:49,647 --> 01:26:55,643
Every single thing. The knife
fallin' through a hole in his pocket.
1280
01:26:55,727 --> 01:26:59,242
You can't prove he didn't get to the door!
1281
01:26:59,327 --> 01:27:03,878
Sure, you can take all the time, hobble
around the room, but you can't prove it!
1282
01:27:06,327 --> 01:27:09,239
And what about this business of the el?
And the movies?
1283
01:27:09,327 --> 01:27:12,478
There's a phoney deal if I ever heard one.
1284
01:27:12,567 --> 01:27:16,401
I'll bet you $5,000
/'d remember the movies I saw.
1285
01:27:16,487 --> 01:27:22,437
I'm tellin' you, everything that's gone on
has been twisted and turned!
1286
01:27:22,527 --> 01:27:26,076
This business with the glasses?
How do you know she didn't have 'em on?
1287
01:27:26,167 --> 01:27:29,398
This woman testified in open court!
1288
01:27:30,127 --> 01:27:33,836
And what about
hearin' the kid yell? Huh?
1289
01:27:33,927 --> 01:27:37,920
I'm tellin' ya, I've got all the facts here.
1290
01:27:38,327 --> 01:27:40,318
Here...
1291
01:27:42,287 --> 01:27:45,484
Well, that's it. That's the whole case.
1292
01:27:51,687 --> 01:27:53,678
Well?
1293
01:27:55,367 --> 01:27:57,358
Say something!
1294
01:28:02,167 --> 01:28:05,398
You lousy bunch of bleedin' hearts.
1295
01:28:06,167 --> 01:28:11,195
You're not gonna intimidate me.
I'm entitled to my opinion.
1296
01:28:13,647 --> 01:28:17,242
Rotten kids... You work your life out!
1297
01:28:28,647 --> 01:28:30,638
No...
1298
01:28:34,047 --> 01:28:36,038
Not guilty.
1299
01:28:39,127 --> 01:28:41,118
Not guilty.
1300
01:28:55,927 --> 01:28:57,918
We're ready now.
1301
01:30:46,207 --> 01:30:48,198
Hey!
1302
01:30:52,247 --> 01:30:55,125
- What's your name?
- Davis.
1303
01:30:55,207 --> 01:30:57,198
My name's McCardle.
1304
01:30:59,407 --> 01:31:02,001
- Well, so long.
- So long.
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